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Go on record. Who still wants Watson?


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5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Jane Doe is Jane Doe.  Sounds like the attorney plans to keep it that way.  

it isn’t backtracking to say yet another Jane Doe isn’t the same thing as a legit massage therapist coming out against Watson.   Accusers still need credibility and facts.   

I’m on the Fields train by the way.   I haven’t been following the story closely because I’m not hung up on Watson and determining his guilt or innocence right now.   Not fair to him or the accusers.  And Watson’s history still says he should get a chance to defend himself to all this without  being presumed guilty first. 

Sports illustrated knows exactly who she is, and what her credentials are. That's why they reached out to her. You not knowing who she is doesn't delegitimize those things.

And again, civil court doesn't work that way. There's no presumption of innocence in a lawsuit.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've seen a few folks who still have that pipe dream, including one who thinks it happens before the draft (yikes).

In reality, barring a settlement or some other miraculous event, Florio estimates that Watson's current slate of lawsuits will take about two years to work through.

And I know some folks think a settlement just makes everything magically go away, but it's really not that simple; especially given that each and every one of the accusers is asking for an admission of guilt.

I feel pretty confident in saying two things:

Nobody, including us, is trading for Watson while this is still going on (we'd be idiots to do so).

And specific to the Panthers, we're not waiting around for two years to address our quarterback situation.

As Verge has said more than once, that ship has sailed.

Exactly, it isn’t gonna happen.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Sports illustrated knows exactly who she is, and what her credentials are. That's why they reached out to her. You not knowing who she is doesn't delegitimize those things.

And again, civil court doesn't work that way. There's no presumption of innocence in a lawsuit.

You’re wrong again. The defendant still starts with a presumption of liability. The burden is just lower for the plaintiff (preponderance of evidence rather than beyond a reasonable doubt). 

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6 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

Under what authority would someone who settles a civil matter have to register as a sex offender? And rarely do people settle a civil matter and “admit guilt.” lol

For one, every single lawsuit filed is demanding an admission of guilt. So unless you think all 20 plus women are just going to drop that request, then yes, that will be a requirement to settle.

The sex offender thing is a hypothetical. It's the kind of thing that's been requested in other lawsuits.

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Just now, Smittymoose said:

You’re wrong again. The defendant still starts with a presumption of liability. The burden is just lower for the plaintiff (preponderance of evidence rather than beyond a reasonable doubt). 

Should be “no liability” since I cannot edit my posts for whatever stupid reason.

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Just now, Smittymoose said:

You’re wrong again. The defendant still starts with a presumption of liability. The burden is just lower for the plaintiff (preponderance of evidence rather than beyond a reasonable doubt). 

We have an actual lawyer on here who says otherwise.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

For one, every single lawsuit filed is demanding an admission of guilt. So unless you think all 20 plus women are just going to drop that request, then yes, that will be a requirement to settle.

The sex offender thing is a hypothetical. It's the kind of thing that's been requested in other lawsuits.

Yes, that’s how settlements work. People drop their demands to reach an agreement somewhere in the middle. lol if you think he’s going to settle and still admit guilt.

 

Please find a single example of someone registering as a sex offender as a result of a civil suit, particularly upon settlement. You’ll be looking for a while. 

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

We have an actual lawyer on here who says otherwise.

Well, he’s a bad one then. A defendant is not presumed liable in a civil suit. A defendant is not liable until the plaintiff proves it is more likely than not (preponderance of the evidence) that the defendant committed whatever civil offense is alleged. The burden is certainly much lower, but a defendant is still presumed not to be liable until proven otherwise. 

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Just now, Smittymoose said:

Yes, that’s how settlements work. People drop their demands to reach an agreement somewhere in the middle. lol if you think he’s going to settle and still admit guilt.

Please find a single example of someone registering as a sex offender as a result of a civil suit, particularly upon settlement. You’ll be looking for a while. 

Their requirements now are $500 and an admission of guilt.

Somehow I don't an offer of $250 and no admission of any wrongdoing on Watson's part is going to do the trick.

Throw in that if he does settle for a larger amount of money, do you really think that's going to make everybody believe he's innocent?

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Their requirements now are $500 and an admission of guilt.

Somehow I don't an offer of $250 and no admission of any wrongdoing on Watson's part is going to do the trick.

Throw in that if he does settle for a larger amount of money, do you really think that's going to make everybody believe he's innocent?

 

You should read the lawsuit and not just what the plaintiff’s attorney says. They’re also asking for emotional damages. They had to ask for at least $500 to invoke the jurisdiction of the court. You really think that bozo took these cases as a public service? 

And it doesn’t matter whether anyone “believes” he’s innocent. Who cares? Before you said he was going to be registering as a sex offender and have to admit guilt in any settlement. Now he might just settle for too much money instead? yeesh. 

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