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Panthers interviewing Morgan, others for Assistant GM job


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8 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

The presumption is Rhule has final say.

Org chart:

 Tepper > Rhule > Fitterer/GM > Assistant GM

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If Rhule really does have final say the GM and Asst. GM are really serving in senior scouting/analytical roles...

...fancy titles but their responsibilities don't correlate with those who have similar titles at other NFL franchises who are employing the "traditional" (archaic) NFL model.

Actually, per Rhule's own words, Fitterer ran the draft and free agency processes. Which makes sense because that's kind of, you know, his job.

Also according to both Rhule and Gantt, David Tepper stays out of the football decisions and lets his coach and GM do what they were hired to do.

And I happen to think that's great 😁

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually, per Rhule's own words, Fitterer ran the draft and free agency processes. Which makes sense because that's kind of, you know, his job.

Also according to both Rhule and Gantt, David Tepper stays out of the football decisions and lets his coach and GM do what they were hired to do.

And I happen to think that's great 😁

Rhule has final say, not "the GM".  (as per other poster)

Absolutely nothing was said about Tepper as it goes to "football decisions".

Nobody cares what you think.

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20 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Rhule has final say, not "the GM".  (as per other poster)

Absolutely nothing was said about Tepper as it goes to "football decisions".

Nobody cares what you think.

Since when does the HC have the say. The GM is the one who does the hiring/firing and that also includes the hiring/firing of HC position as well. Rhule don't have any say in the matter but he can recommend someone and that is it.

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31 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Rhule has final say, not "the GM".  (as per other poster)

Absolutely nothing was said about Tepper as it goes to "football decisions".

Nobody cares what you think.

Discussion of Matt Rhule's interview with Rich Eisen wherein he gives the quote, "Dave leaves the football stuff to me and Scott" can be found here.

Likewise, here's a quote from Darin Gantt's article about draft night in the Panthers war room.

Tepper's an active participant in the process. Not in terms of this player or that guy, but making sure every one in the room is taking the right steps to every decision.

Again, these are from people actually connected with the team, not internet guys who watch Showtime.

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20 minutes ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Since when does the HC have the say. The GM is the one who does the hiring/firing and that also includes the hiring/firing of HC position as well. Rhule don't have any say in the matter but he can recommend someone and that is it.

"Coach centric" is probably a better description. 

Our front office is modeled after the Seahawks, where Pete Carroll has final say.

Rhule has made it pretty clear that he's not a dictator though. Scott Fitterer runs the personnel processes and he ran the draft, though Rhule and the coaching staff helped set up the draft board.

It's not like Belichick.

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4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Discussion of Matt Rhule's interview with Rich Eisen wherein he gives the quote, "Dave leaves the football stuff to me and Scott" can be found here.

Likewise, here's a quote from Darin Gantt's article about draft night in the Panthers war room.

Tepper's an active participant in the process. Not in terms of this player or that guy, but making sure every one in the room is taking the right steps to every decision.

Again, these are from people actually connected with the team, not internet guys who watch Showtime.

Who does Rhule report to?

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4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

"Coach centric" is probably a better description. 

Our front office is modeled after the Seahawks, where Pete Carroll has final say.

Rhule has made it pretty clear that he's not a dictator though. Scott Fitterer runs the personnel processes and he ran the draft, though Rhule and the coaching staff helped set up the draft board.

It's not like Belichick.

Who has "final say"?

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5 hours ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Since when does the HC have the say. The GM is the one who does the hiring/firing and that also includes the hiring/firing of HC position as well. Rhule don't have any say in the matter but he can recommend someone and that is it.

Since Rhule was hired.  

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