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The Panthers Progress (from this era to the next)


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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I would have LOVED to have had Watson pre-scandal but I think that asking price would have doomed us to continually field a shitty overall roster floated to hopefully be decent by an elite QB. It would be really tough to build a contender giving up three 1sts and 2nds. That's a LOT of cheap potential talent.

That would have basically been continuing to do things the Rivera way.

Also pretty much clears up that the whole "David Tepper will pay any price" narrative was always bullsh-t.

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That would have basically been continuing to do things the Rivera way.

Also pretty much clears up that the whole "David Tepper will pay any price" narrative was always bullsh-t.

When in the Rivera era did we ever trade a lot of assets for 1 player?

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8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I would have LOVED to have had Watson pre-scandal but I think that asking price would have doomed us to continually field a shitty overall roster floated to hopefully be decent by an elite QB. It would be really tough to build a contender giving up three 1sts and 2nds. That's a LOT of cheap potential talent.

There are pages and pages and pages of threads full of people who cannot seem to grasp this concept.

All of the capitol would have went to him, and he would be crying on twitter again within 3 years after taking a Newton-esque beating.

All the while having no money to pay anyone worth a damn and giving up a TON of talent initially.

It would have wrecked with franchise without a doubt.

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14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not that...

The whole "basing everything on a star quarterback" thing.

Yeah, we definitely completely leaned on Cam. Though we did TRY at WR. We spent a 1st on KB and a 2nd on Funchess, we just chose poorly. The approach at OL though... oh wee mayne. I hope to see is go all in on OL this off-season if Darnold pans out over the course of the entire season.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, we definitely completely leaned on Cam. Though we did TRY at WR. We spent a 1st on KB and a 2nd on Funchess, we just chose poorly. The approach at OL though... oh wee mayne. I hope to see is go all in on OL this off-season if Darnold pans out over the course of the entire season.

I've said before that I think we signed stopgaps this year with a plan to build the OL via the draft.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not that...

The whole "basing everything on a star quarterback" thing.

We didn't really do that under Rivera though. We put most of our focus on the defense with him. And it worked for a little while and a few seasons. Only season that we actually relied on Cam to carry the team was 2015. 2013 was the D, 2017 was an overall team effort. 

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Just now, t96 said:

We didn't really do that under Rivera though. We put most of our focus on the defense with him. And it worked for a little while and a few seasons. Only season that we actually relied on Cam to carry the team was 2015. 2013 was the D, 2017 was an overall team effort. 

I think he meant....

Ron:  Oh poo....nothing is working today.  "Shula, see if Cam can be superman again this week and bail me out, to hell with him taking a career altering amount of hits."

 

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9 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Good article, thank you for sharing.

I have no clue why I feel this way, but I think that this staff can alter the trajectory of Sam...if so, and he somehow becomes a top 10 QB...we will be in business.

 

Our window is opening.

I wonder too if Sam would be willing to take a decent sized discount re-signing here since we were the catalyst for turning his career around and we took a chance on him after a really terrible early showing with NYJ.

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12 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I think he meant....

Ron:  Oh poo....nothing is working today.  "Shula, see if Cam can be superman again this week and bail me out, to hell with him taking a career altering amount of hits."

Pretty much.

Our offensive philosophy under Rivera was basically the Buddy Ryan approach, i.e. Cam is the offense and the defense handles the rest.

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5 minutes ago, t96 said:

I wonder too if Sam would be willing to take a decent sized discount re-signing here since we were the catalyst for turning his career around and we took a chance on him after a really terrible early showing with NYJ.

I think it's possible if it's up to Darnold.

Not so sure his agent will be quite so cooperative...unless of course Sam tells him to be.

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