Opinions: need beef on the Dline

[WOW!!]

53 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's approaching 30% of the time though. Even if you win your division you're going to have to win three games against playoff caliber teams. Odds are pretty decent one of those teams is going to curb stomp you in the trenches. It needs to get addressed in the off-season.

Jesus christ.. What is the expectation here?? 

No defense in this league this year is stopping every offense they have faced... 

This Defense is still young ass hell it isn't the 99 Ravens or 86 Bears.. 

70% effectiveness isn't bad for a defense so young and spent most the season carrying a inept offense...

[WOW!!]

57 minutes ago, AceMan said:

We should be 8-3 and a clear playoff team according to this logic then

So the other half of the team don't count??

You do know there is a thing called offense in football  right??

See how stupid you look when you try to act smart?? 

Lmao

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Jesus christ.. What is the expectation here?? 

No defense in this league this year is stopping every offense they have faced... 

This Defense is still young ass hell it isn't the 99 Ravens or 86 Bears.. 

70% effectiveness isn't bad for a defense so young and spent most the season carrying a inept offense...

We're 24th in the league in rushing yards allowed. It's clearly a problem.

[WOW!!]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We're 24th in the league in rushing yards allowed. It's clearly a problem.

Outsiders got them at 19..

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-rushing-yards-per-game

And are we going to negate the fact that for 9 weeks the offense left them on the field for teams to run on them towards the end of the game??

At some point you have to add context when using stats..

Edited November 23, 2021 by WOW!!

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Outsiders got them at 19..

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-rushing-yards-per-game

And are we going to negate the fact that for 9 weeks the offense left them on the field for teams to run on them towards the end of the game??

At some point you have to add context when using stats..

The offense has been much better since bringing Cam back. Honestly, our rush D is our biggest weakness since then.

It's okay man. The team isn't perfect. Some criticism is okay. I mean, we're 5-6. Clearly there's some aspects of the team that need improvement.

We're 19th in average tugging yards allowed per game. We're 24th in actual rushing yards allowed.

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The offense has been much better since bringing Cam back. Honestly, our rush D is our biggest weakness since then.

It's okay man. The team isn't perfect. Some criticism is okay. I mean, we're 5-6. Clearly there's some aspects of the team that need improvement.

We're 19th in average tugging yards allowed per game. We're 24th in actual rushing yards allowed.

Wait Limmy the rankings are based on the season so far not the last 2 games..

Since Cam been back they stuffed the Cardinals and got beat up by the Team..

But the other 9 games they were dealing with a Darnold led offense and no complimentary Football right??

That will effect any defenses numbers??

Edited November 23, 2021 by WOW!!

[jayboogieman]

1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

3 out of 11 games they gotten beaten in the trenches can we stop going overboard...

The Panthers have been beaten in the trenches more than 3 times. In every loss, the Panthers have given up at least 90 yards rushing. The Eagles being the team that didn't rush for over 100 yards. In the wins, the Panthers have kept teams under 90 yards rushing. Teams being able to run on the Panthers is more than a trend, it's the same problem the Manning era Colts had with their smaller front.

[hepcat]

It’s the gap integrity that fails in Phil Snow’s scheme when teams have an offensive line that can block guys man on man and win. In a Rivera style defense at least in the earlier days with Star and KK, you could stop the run with gap integrity and good linebacker play because of the more traditional alignments, even against a good offensive line that bodied them up.

Now the Phil Snow defense relies more on gimmicks, weird alignments, and stunts to put guys in position to make a play in the run game and to fill the gaps. It leaves big wide open holes for 10 yard games when your d-line doesn’t outright win at the point of attack and puts an offensive lineman on a linebacker a lot of the time. Snow’s defense has worked great at stopping some zone run teams, and teams with inferior offensive linemen that could be beat one on one. Against teams that run the ball well with straight man on man blocking like Dallas or Minnesota the results were absolutely horrendous. Washington and New England had a similar strategy to great success.

The blueprint is out there, but luckily not all teams have the offensive lineman to pull it off. The Panthers D-line will win against some teams.