2021 Carolina Panther's draft picks

[poundaway]

6 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Where did I say Hubbard was the ONLY backup to CMC?  You must learn how to read before you spout your mouth off. 

This entire post was to say our 2021 rookies would contribute more in 2022. 

Somehow you think if a draft pick doesn't pan out in year one he's a bust.   

Chubba was a 4th rounder, how could he be a bust? I never said he was a bust.   Bust would imply he was supposed to be really good and then was disappointing.  Hubbard was nothing special coming in, so he couldn't bust.  

I just said I thought he sucked, he did, and I'm glad we will see less of him this year.

Edited May 9, 2022 by poundaway

[poundaway]

8 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Where did I say Hubbard was the ONLY backup to CMC? 

I never said that you said Hubbard was the only backup to CMC.  In fact, I'm sooo glad he isn't.

[DaveThePanther2008]

13 minutes ago, poundaway said:

I never said that you said Hubbard was the only backup to CMC.  In fact, I'm sooo glad he isn't.

Actually you did.

" I wouldn't have gone into the season relying on a 4th round rookie as my only backup to CMC."  

17 minutes ago, poundaway said:

I just said I thought he sucked, he did, and I'm glad we will see less of him this year.

You mean you hated the pick and cannot nor will not accept that he has a role on this team. 

While he may not start he'll see playing time.  

McAdoo will enjoy the skillset of CMC, Foreman and Hubbard.  I hope they take a load off of CMC.  I can also see CMC in the slot and either Foreman or Hubbard at RB. 

[Basbear]

On 5/8/2022 at 5:03 PM, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Most of us are raving about our 2022 picks and rightly so.  Icky and Corral were awesome choices.   Not to mention the potential we have in our other picks. 

It got me to thinking what should we expect from our sophomore class.  I always contended that 2021 was one of Carolina's best drafts.  I think it is time for them to get going and start contributing. 

JC Horn - I expect him to pick up where he left off and with Wilks being his new coach he will be even better.

T. Marshall - I think he is going to take what he showed in preseason 2021 and apply it to the field.  I think Corral will love his height and catch radius.  I expect good numbers from him.

B. Christensen - I think he starts whether it is LT and let Icky get used to the speed of the game at guard or be inside as a guard but either way I think he starts. *** See D. Brown***

T. Tremble - I think he is going to be a beast in the running game and really improve in the passing game.  We don't really have that big named TE and I believe he will be the #1 targeted TE on this team.   I don't think Ian Thomas will pass him on the depth chart.

Chubba Hubbard - I think behind this line he is going to be dangerous.  He is very good when he gets to the second level.  I would not be surprised to CMC in the slot with Hubbard as RB.  That will make things very difficult for defense..  Some think he was a wasted pick.  I think the trio in the backfield group is going to be one of our stronger offensive groups. 

D. Nixon - With a year under his belt I think he'll be much better in 2022.  I think if he can hold his own on the interior D-line our defensive line won't be too bad.  We've always had DTs that are rotational. 

K. Taylor - He'll see playing time IMO is good depth and situational appearances.   Our DB backfield is pretty loaded by Taylor should contribute when called upon. 

D. Brown - At the end of 2021 I wanted to see more of him and let him show what he can do.  Fitterer did a good job to solidify our offensive line I am not sure he'll start. However, with any O-line group depth is a huge necessity.  He may contend for the guard job with BC.  I look forward to seeing him battle for a starting guard spot.  I would not be surprised to see him beat out BC and BC becomes a swing tackle.

S. Smith - He's currently #4 on the depth chart.  I think he has amazing hands and made a couple of really nice plays for us last year.   I think he'll contribute more in 2022.  Maybe he'll have a connection with Corral and be solid depth.

T. Fletcher - kind of a wasted pick but may hang on to take JJ spot after 2022.

P. Hoskins - had sporadic success last year but with the loss of Fox hopeful he fights for that spot.  At minimum, he will be rotational depth.

 

Thoughts

 

 

Ive been very vocal about my feels for the 2021 class. The dirty deal is this- just takes two starters and one top back-up/ST ace for a GREAT draft. Sad, but its real. Another tid-bit the biggest improvement in ones NFL career mainly come form year one to two. So this coming OTAs, mini, and training camp is huge(coofus setback all of this). 

Still feel this will go down as the one of the best in panthers history. 

Horn- dream player. He came in ready and had a freak injury. He attacked that as well. No worries and thats super rare with all these players

TMJ- another brady mistake.....I still got hopes he will re-write some of the panthers WR records.

Christ- Like Horn high RAS, at worst he ends up as a super sub.

Tremble- Looking forward to see how he attack the off-season. mccadoo likes 2 TEs sets and that would have him on field.

Hubbard- Maybe a better fit given the OL coach Campy. I got no issues with him being a 2-3 type of HB. 

Nixon- torn a ACL and had some flashes. He could be the 3# DT for the upcoming season

Taylor- started some and looked like a 1st rounder. DAWG and had some rookie snaps too. Looked great for a 5th rounder

Brown- I still got hope for him, even to say hes a darkhorse for starting RG this year. Another player that benefits from new staff-campy&mccadoo

Smith- got the tools and each practices made a highlight play. Screwed up and eyes are on him. 

LS- wasted pick. had the same "trade for sam darnorld" hate for this. Never spend picks on ST unless you have a 2nd round graded kicker in the 7th

Hoskins- replaced Nixon and showed the same flashes. For a 7th its a bonus if youre able to get 15-20 NFL snaps out of them. He gave me the impression thats a role he can fill. 

Again I see more than 2.5 starters and that = A insanely good draft. Big year coming...

Edited May 9, 2022 by Basbear

[Basbear]

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

After three straight 5 win seasons, one good starter is a dog poo draft. We are where we are right now because the 2018-2021 drafts haven’t given us enough good starters. CJ has already been relegated to slot CB with Donte’s deal so Corral is the swing vote so to speak. If he’s a quality starter, the draft is a success even with the bad hand dealt. If he’s a backup the Darnold/CJ trades really screwed us, especially since we already gave up a 2023 3rd.

Just to let you know- Jags included a 5th in the CJ deal- panthers used that to trade up for Bsmith freakshow at LB a spot where he could start faster than we know. Wilkis is here and known around all foozeball to be a great DB coach. If CJ can not figured it out with Wilkis, he may want to think about not getting the NFL checks/frame. The pressure on him should be very low(well at least in his terms). I think JC horn is a great role model for CJ as well, maybe that will aid as well. 

No take on Darnold, hated it then and """.  You know about trading future picks. Future 4th is worth a now 3rd etc....Panthers seemed to want to keep the 2021 ones, so in order to land Sammy, they had to deal future ones and finished with 5 wins. It wouldnt hurt if Sam was good enough for 9 wins in that 2021 seasons, picks-wise. 

[mc52beast]

It’s safe to say that since Rhule has taken over they have put an emphasis draft-wise on athletic measurables and potential. 
 

In order for this to work you have to have a staff that can develop these players, we haven’t had that until this year. 

[Basbear]

11 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

It’s safe to say that since Rhule has taken over they have put an emphasis draft-wise on athletic measurables and potential. 
 

In order for this to work you have to have a staff that can develop these players, we haven’t had that until this year. 

Just like the long armed stuff, I agree with Rhule about focusing high RAS players, especially in the 4-7 rounds. Gimme the lean clay block that can touch the moon. Id take the risk for one of them over some guy that doesnt. The league keeps getting less and less contact, speed wins.

I said the Baylor memes plenty, but if you look at Baylor players combine/pro-day. VERRRRYYYYY under-rated freak-shows. Most of them are high RAS speed demons. Not just this year, NYjets picks Mims who was injured but put up insane numbers. Each year since Rhule leftd, low-key Baylor had their players more than ready for putting up top 1% numbers in their group.  

Edited May 9, 2022 by Basbear

[Waldo]

12 hours ago, stbugs said:

After three straight 5 win seasons, one good starter is a dog poo draft. We are where we are right now because the 2018-2021 drafts haven’t given us enough good starters. CJ has already been relegated to slot CB with Donte’s deal so Corral is the swing vote so to speak. If he’s a quality starter, the draft is a success even with the bad hand dealt. If he’s a backup the Darnold/CJ trades really screwed us, especially since we already gave up a 2023 3rd.

After thinking about it I realized that I had already discounted this draft on the waste of the Sam trade last year. I was looking at it as something from the ashes with Ickey, especially with the Pickett talk all offseason. The win for me was getting a starter in this draft when we could have had none at all.

Good time in Panther land lol. Just brutal

 

[Waldo]

51 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It was a solid draft considering what we had but unfortunately you can’t just ignore that overall because that impacts the overall team talent. You have to either get your Cam or Brady or Manning or Wilson or Rodgers along with some multi-starter drafts. If you don’t get that QB or you don’t get those solid drafts you really can’t make much headway and you can’t have 5 drafts (2018-2022) and get Burns, Moore, Chinn, Horn and Ekwonu. They are good players but then you are always having 2 of the 5 at 2nd contract rates or leaving in FA. You need to get more. Look at Cam. In the 3 drafts after him we got Luke, Norman, Star, Short, Klein, Boston, Norwell, Turner and even KB and Ealy (our SB MVP). Those weren’t close to Seattles legion of boom + Wilson back to back drafts but still got us the guys to add to the existing vets to create a SB contender.

We need those type of drafts so we aren’t wasting years and we need to stop wasting picks and resources on reclamation/go for it projects when it has no chance to get us to the top.

There wasn't one of those QBs in this draft tho and I am thrilled they didn't force it. Also LT is next after QB. If Ickey hits that is a huge hit for us. Much more than a CB, WR or DE.

IDK, when it's bad take what you can ehen you can. Hurney taught us all that. We need those kinds of drafts but we also need a staff able to use them to their maximum. Not feeling that here anyways. I honestly can't talk about the top for the Panthets at the moment, just doesn't seem realistic on any level. I'm expecting 6 wins this year regardless what else we do. I would be thrilled for a great draft but we also have other problems.