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Willing to wait two more seasons?

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

A good coach and a good QB can do precisely that. Did you see a path to the Eagles being undefeated? Did you see a path to the Giants success this year?

This isn't a talent deficient team.

Actually it kindof is.   And we were exposed by an above average nfl team.  We looked decent/good vs the dogshit that is the nfcs but when it comes to a real team you see how far off we are. 

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We talking rookie qb or vet?

It isn't really relevant, TBH. We can take either course and turn this into a team capable of having a winning record.

It will take continuous improvement to KEEP winning, so that has to happen, as well.

But this idea that it's impossible to turn around our fortunes is ridiculous. My God, look at how terrible this division is for that matter. We can still win this division. That's how bad it is.

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49 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Obviously this team needs much more then a QB. They need Linebackers, DE, and DLine help. Offense needs TE help and probably a RB. WR would help also.

They can fill some of these in FA if the $$ is available.  Still have to resign some valuable OL players.

After watching that sh%tshow yesterday, the fact that they need help at many positions is obvious. Can't fill all these holes in one season. 

Probably will take two or three good drafts and FA signings to be competitive on a constant basis.

Are you okay with remaining patient while they finally built the team the right way?

No more throwing shat at the wall and see what sticks....

 

 

 

 

Why do you think so many people were pissed they didn’t take the Burns trade? 

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

It isn't really relevant, TBH. We can take either course and turn this into a team capable of having a winning record.

It will take continuous improvement to KEEP winning, so that has to happen, as well.

But this idea that it's impossible to turn around our fortunes is ridiculous. My God, look at how terrible this division is for that matter. We can still win this division. That's how bad it is.

It kindof is relevant as rookie qbs (who it looks almost a certainty we are taking) typically take a couple of seasons to get their sea legs so I am not banking dropping a top draft pick into this lineup and expecting different results

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Actually it kindof is.   And we were exposed by an above average nfl team.  We looked decent/good vs the dogshit that is the nfcs but when it comes to a real team you see how far off we are. 

It isn't talent deficient at all. It's not talent rich but we have plenty of pieces to build on and plenty more we can lock in for a couple of more years to stabilize.

Yesterday's game isn't the entire season. It's one game. We have seen these players(and coaches) for 9 games now. We know that there are very much talented players on this roster.

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

It kindof is relevant as rookie qbs (who it looks almost a certainty we are taking) typically take a couple of seasons to get their sea legs so I am not banking dropping a top draft pick into this lineup and expecting different results

That can be the results, certainly. But it can also go the other way and you can have immediate success. Lots of factors involved there.

Hence why I also said "good coach."

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

It isn't talent deficient at all. It's not talent rich but we have plenty of pieces to build on and plenty more we can lock in for a couple of more years to stabilize.

Yesterday's game isn't the entire season. It's one game. We have seen these players(and coaches) for 9 games now. We know that there are very much talented players on this roster.

I am going to agree to disagree because our defense is imploding and teams have figured us out.  That and the fact that if we have all this talent we are still sitting at 2 wins.  Our front 7 needs a massive overhaul and thats not really up for debate.   In regards to our corners, CJ Henderson needs to be cut today.  He brings nothing. 

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That can be the results, certainly. But it can also go the other way and you can have immediate success. Lots of factors involved there.

Hence why I also said "good coach."

Good coach absolutely, but looking around the league at some of the top rookie qb seasons I aint seeing a whole lot of winning their first year

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am going to agree to disagree because our defense is imploding and teams have figured us out.  That and the fact that if we have all this talent we are still sitting at 2 wins.  Our front 7 needs a massive overhaul and thats not really up for debate.   In regards to our corners, CJ Henderson needs to be cut today.  He brings nothing. 

If they have figured our defense out, isn’t that a coaching scheme? 

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Thats a bit one and the same.  If we get Jackson, which I am not opposed to but still think its a long shot, then we probably will have to give up our entire draft to trade for him. 

He isn’t under contract… we wouldn’t have to give up anything.  If the ravens franchise tag Lamar it’s probably 2 firsts and a mid round… that’s nowhere near our entire draft.

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