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4 hours ago, DavidEng said:

I doubt we have a chance to get Nylander. The bigger point as KillerKat quoted the stats from the article is Canes are missing offensive firepower. And Karlsson sure as hell isn’t the answer to that.

Heres more on the Nylander situation.

https://nhltradetalk.com/william-nylander-trade-talk-the-weight-of-an-unsigned-season/

Isn’t Nylander the lazy one? If so I don’t think he’d fit this team. Heard he’s a bit of a Prima donna too. 

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44 minutes ago, backINblack28 said:

Nylander just overvalues tf out of himself so unless he wants to come here with a bridge deal idk what they're going to do cause that he wants 10m is gonna hurt his trade value so bad.

I get that we need FORWARD who scores, but Karlsson had 25 goals/101 points last year. We would be slotted in easy as the number one scoring D and 25 goals helps idgaf where it comes from. it woulda been good for 3rd on the team last season.

Do not want Nylander unless he’s willing to completely buy into rods system. He’s stupidly lazy a majority of the time. Especially on defense. That’s not going to fly in man defense scheme. 

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14 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I’d love Nylander but don’t know how we’d get him. Pesce for Nylander makes a lot of sense but I don’t see Pesce waiving his NTC to go to Canada.

It’s starting to feel like we’ll lose any trade that involves Pesce simply because he can eliminate have of the destinations.

This poo isn’t going to fly on a heavy deep forechecking team. And this was a playoff game too. 
 

Also sorry the edit again but, That’s worse than some Necas slack play. At least Necas knows to backcheck too.

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Another one. 
 

Also it’s noted that this season the leafs played a 2-3 offense and he’s the high forward. So maybe that’s why he’s so timid up by the net. That gave him great point success in the regular season. But these are both playoff games. 

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If I could pick any trade piece winger in the Nylander price range. I’d want Kempe realistically, though actually I’d really want Kuzmenko but there ain’t no way in hell we’d get him, especially since he’s on a bridge and just resigned with Vancouver. First season over here from Russia for 74 points with 39 goals… on Vancouver. Here’s to dreaming. For those that aren’t that familiar with him he’s a tip master who can also rocket the puck when need be. Great positional sense. Maybe we can rent him at the trade deadline. 
 

There are just little to no realistic options in that range when it comes down to it this year. All the high point options are comfortable either on near contender teams(Washington, Pittsburg to name a few) or on playoff teams. 

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7 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Kempe I named back toward the end of June as a possible fit. As well as Troy Terry and Tomas Tatar.

Tatar had an excellent +/- last year. +41 or something. But it looks like his offensive play is falling off. I’ll need to watch Terry’s highlights. But if you think he’s a fit he probably would be. 
 

I could definitely live with Kempe though. Not sure id trade Pesce or skjei to acquire him though. Kuzmenko? I’d trade both if that’s what it took.

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Plus minus is a worthless stat, same player can be -20 on one team and +25 on another.

Im not saying get Nylander but I wouldn’t complain if we did. He would just have to play Rods system. And complain about his defense? Well how about Karlsson who has one of the lowest defense ratings in the nhl and yet he’s an actual defenseman!

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Plus minus is a worthless stat, same player can be -20 on one team and +25 on another.

Im not saying get Nylander but Ivwouldnt complain if we got him. He would just have to play Rods system. And complain about his defense? Well how about Karlsson who has one of the lowest defense ratings in the nhl and yet he’s an actual defenseman!

Check the Reddit video of Nylander. That’s not rods hockey. 

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Check the Reddit video of Nylander. That’s not rods hockey. 

Not sure where a reddit video is I don’t go there. I look at youtube videos. Always look at several. And I look at stats. and if you wouldn’t take a forward with Nylander stats well not much more I can say haha.AEC107CD-BF18-4E77-A1D8-CDC73A7B4F7E.jpeg.02db31328f3137bf2269eb2670662c95.jpeg

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Not sure where a reddit video is I don’t go there. I look at youtube videos. Always look at several. And I look at stats. and if you wouldn’t take a forward with Nylander stats well not much more I can say haha.AEC107CD-BF18-4E77-A1D8-CDC73A7B4F7E.jpeg.02db31328f3137bf2269eb2670662c95.jpeg

I posted it on the last page. You should just be able to hit the play button and it should play embedded. 

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2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

This poo isn’t going to fly on a heavy deep forechecking team. And this was a playoff game too. 
 

Also sorry the edit again but, That’s worse than some Necas slack play. At least Necas knows to backcheck too.

@DavidEng this has always been a huge problem for Nylander. Would you really want this type of effort on your team in the playoffs?

We don’t need regular season players. We need a playoff forward or two. 

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