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A Discussion on WRs: 2011 v.s. 2023


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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Smitty is by far the best WR in the two units but I think this year's unit has significantly better depth of talent.

Wholly disagree that depth is better this year, particularly since Chark has struggled with injuries the past 2 years. Naanee and even Ajirotutu had shown as much as TMJ and Smith, Mingo is a rookie... they are all unproven. Shenault perhaps boosts it but he's not really a traditional WR.

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Here's your players with over 50 targets in 2011 and 2015:

2011 Targets Rec Yards Y/R TD
Smith 129 79 1394 17.6 7
Olsen 89 45 540 12.0 5
Naanee 76 44 467 10.6 1
Shockey 62 37 455 12.3 4
Stewart 61 47 413 8.8 1
LaFell 56 36 613 17.0 3

 - DWill was next in targets with 25. Team also had 3 players over 700 yards rushing.

2015 Targets Rec Yards Y/R TD
Olsen 124 77 1104 14.3 7
Ginn 97 44 739 16.8 10
Funchess 63 31 473 15.3 5
Cotchery 54 39 485 12.4 3
Brown 54 31 447 14.4

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- WR share was similar just spread across 4 targets now, TE now featured but the share also about the same as Dickson had 26 targets.  RB target share decreased compared to 2011 as Stewart, Tolbert and Whittaker combined for 59 targets.

This year I'd say you're probably closer to 2015 than 2011 looking at the way the WR core is built, but with Hurst and Sanders kind of sharing those Olsen targets more.  And obviously far less of those higher risk, down the field shots Newton excelled at.

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