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What is Burns worth?

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Burns is my favorite player on the team, but it's time we trade him.

 

Not because he's not elite. We need to trade him because we literally have nothing on offense. If we can get a WR we have to explore it.

 

This offense is flat out unwatchable, from the play calling and the WR's not getting separation it's clear we need a playmaker on offense.

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

He wants Bosa money and he doesn’t deserve it but the Panthers have cornered themselves. 

I would’ve traded Brown instead of Moore. Now we may have to trade Burns for a legit WR. That’s a trade I’d make for the sake of our QB’s development.

Interesting. Let’s look at potential suitors that have extra WRs and might make the trade:

CIN - Higgins (contract year)

LAC - Mike Williams (Bosa and Burns together - oh my, but they don’t have the $)

MIA - Waddle (they could use Burns, but Waddle and Cheetah are almost too formidable to separate)

JAC - Ridley/Kirk (they would probably rather move Kirk, but I like Ridley - he’s basically DJ Moore)

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Towelboy said:

Interesting. Let’s look at potential suitors that have extra WRs and might make the trade:

CIN - Higgins (contract year)

LAC - Mike Williams (Bosa and Burns together - oh my, but they don’t have the $)

MIA - Waddle (they could use Burns, but Waddle and Cheetah are almost too formidable to separate)

JAC - Ridley/Kirk (they would probably rather move Kirk, but I like Ridley - he’s basically DJ Moore)

 

 

 

Might be a thread worthy topic

Which WR who could realistically be had via trade would you trade Burns for?

That team would then also have to be unwilling to pay their WR but willing to pay Burns…

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

Might be a thread worthy topic

Which WR who could realistically be had via trade would you trade Burns for?

That team would then also have to be unwilling to pay their WR but willing to pay Burns…

You start it and I’ll get some Cap numbers together. 

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14 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Might be a thread worthy topic

Which WR who could realistically be had via trade would you trade Burns for?

That team would then also have to be unwilling to pay their WR but willing to pay Burns…

Winning franchises would pay a premier pass rusher before a receiver any day of the week.

It's teams like the Panthers that would do foolishness like that in reverse. 

Stroud threw for 384 yards and his leading receiver was a rookie receiver taken a round later than we took Mingo. 

The Rams have a rookie named Puka Nacua leading the league in receptions.

Good coordinators can scheme people open. 

 

 

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Just now, Pantherxtreme said:

Winning franchises would pay a premier pass rusher before a receiver any day of the week.

It's teams like the Panthers that would do foolishness like that in reverse. 

Stroud threw for 384 yards and his leading receiver was a rookie receiver taken a round later than we took Mingo. 

The Rams have someone a rookie named Puka Nacua leading the league in receptions.

Good coordinators can scheme people open. 

 

 

You aren’t wrong. I’m not for trading Burns for a WR, but in this what if scenario, what might our idiot GM consider?

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31 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Don't overlook the cap space that trading CMC created.  It was a big deal and allowed us to build this defense.

We didn’t open up that much cap space. We had a bunch of dead cap. What we would have hit our cap is what hit the 49ers. Their total cap hit for 4 years of CMC is $39M. We signed Sanders to a 4 years $25M deal ($13M guaranteed).

Congratulations, they have one of the best offensive weapons in the league and we have Sanders for $3.5M a year less. Sanders and Chark are more expensive cap wise by $1.5M than CMC.

We do have DJ Johnson from the trade as well. Winning!

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6 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Winning franchises would pay a premier pass rusher before a receiver any day of the week.

It's teams like the Panthers that would do foolishness like that in reverse. 

Stroud threw for 384 yards and his leading receiver was a rookie receiver taken a round later than we took Mingo. 

The Rams have a rookie named Puka Nacua leading the league in receptions.

Good coordinators can scheme people open. 

 

 

Also, good GMs draft better players.

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1 hour ago, UNCrules2187 said:

I know you have to evaluate every move on its own, but if that happened, the sequence of events you're describing would essentially mean we turned CMC, DJ Moore, Brian Burns, and 3 2nd round picks (23 SF, 24 CAR, 25 CAR) into Bryce Young and DJ Johnson.

+ Whoever we took with the returned pick.

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16 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Winning franchises would pay a premier pass rusher before a receiver any day of the week.

It's teams like the Panthers that would do foolishness like that in reverse. 

Stroud threw for 384 yards and his leading receiver was a rookie receiver taken a round later than we took Mingo. 

The Rams have a rookie named Puka Nacua leading the league in receptions.

Good coordinators can scheme people open. 

 

 

Thank god, someone with sanity.

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