Deangelo Williams >>>> Adrian Peterson

[MadHatter]

AP has 6 straight games under 100 yards.....and coughs another fumble up.

I would take DWill over AP any day of the week.

[Darth Biscuit]

Good post. rep

The only rebuttal I would have to this is DWill gets hit by the same defenders and he does not have this problem.

I think this is def. a part of his problem. Dwill gets lower as does Stewy and this def. helps their balance and not having to extend their arms out as much.( I know they are shorter as this helps too) Rep!!

True and true... he does run fairly upright... seems like he needs to be in the open field more, whereas D-Will and JStew run thru piles.

but... but... Lord Favre fumbled last night too...

[British_Panther]

very few RBs have the right combination of strength and balance to be able to do that.

Exactly, Stewart often doesn't need to stiff-arm like Peterson does, he just stiff-bodies the defender into the dirt.

[Gscottnc5]

Umm.... Point made. **Gloats a Little**

[Swarly]

AP has a BEAST o-line to run behind, so don't try and act like DWill and Stewart have that luxury and he doesn't.

2009:

AP- 1383 yards, 314 attempts, 4.4 average, 6 fumbles

DWill- 1117 yards, 216 attempts, 5.2 average, 3 fumbles

2008:

AP- 1760 yards, 362 attempts, 4.8 average, 9 fumbles

DWill- 1515 yards, 273 attempts, 5.5 average, 0 fumbles

How many years does DWill have to outplay this guy to be considered better? Adrian Peterson is good at making highlight reels, so I guess that makes him better right? He's a genetic freak, there is no question about that. His speed, power, elusiveness is just unreal, but his fumbling problem takes him out of the 'elite' category. Like serious, 3 fumbles in one game? That's worse than Jake!

I'm not saying Williams is the best back in the league because he's not, but there is no question I would take him over AP.

[csx]

How many years does DWill have to outplay this guy to be considered better?

What does it matter who considers who better? We have the guy we think is better and that's all that matters.

I used to think people were crazy for suggesting Williams was better but I've come around and I'm happy with who we got now.

[Guild]

How many years does DWill have to outplay this guy to be considered better?

How many years until a big market team who the sports writers like to write about picks up D-Will?

[frash.exe]

Put both of them on the table and ask me which one i'd rather have today and I'd probably pick Williams. However backs fluctuate up and down the list of best-worst much more dramatically than say QB. A year from now if Peterson finishes leading the league in rushing yardage with a forgivable amount of fumbles everybody's opinion will change. 2 years ago the comparison would've been a no-brainer in AP's favor.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

too much homerism in this thread.

if it helps people to sleep at night by putting williams over peterson because of his fumbles and lower ypc, then have at it.

people put way too much stock in ypc. anything over 4.0 is considered good.

the fact is, not many backs can carry the rock almost 1000x over 3 seasons and still eclipse 1300+ yards and 10+ TDs each season.

when your running back can consistently produce those numbers when you constantly feed him the ball without breaking down, you give him the rock.

that's why he's called "all day"...and that's why he's considered the best in the game regardless of his flaws.

[OneBadassCat]

I don't understand why so many here think Deangelo is not an elite talented player. It's like just because he doesn't have stupendess break away speed he's not considered elite. That's bullshit he has the best vision of any RB I have seen and he has the feet of Barry Sanders, nobody can shift as well as Williams does. It's like some of you think like that's not a god given ability, it sure as hell is. That easily makes up for whatever genetic freak "talent" that AP has.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

AP Career stats(Since 2007) 38 total games started

total yards - 4400

Avg - 4.9

TD's - 39

Fumbles - 20

Fumbles lost - 13

DW Career stats(since 2006) 31 total games started

total yards - 3850

Avg - 5.1

TD's - 30

Fumbles - 5

Fumbles lost - 4

the flaw with this comparison...and there always seems to be one when comparing deangelo williams to anyone (at least on the huddle) is you're comparing 4 years of stats for williams to 3 years for peterson.

the most logical thing to do is to compare peterson's 3 seasons to williams's first 3 seasons.

...btw, a couple of your stats for peterson are a wee bit off.

peterson (39 games started)

atempts - 915

rushing yards - 4401

ypc - 4.9

tds- 40

fumbles - 20

fumbles lost - 13

williams (18 games started)

attempts - 638

rushing yards - 2733

ypc - 4.2

tds - 23

fumbles - 2

fumbles - 1

i'm sure that someone will come along with with "but, but, but, williams blah blah blah"...the fact of the matter is, williams hasn't had to deal with even half the weight that peterson has in any of his 4 seasons in the league.

"...but williams doesn't fumble as much as peterson!"

who does?

and since no one else in the league does, why is that so significant when comparing just these 2?

[nosuchthingasapanther]

I don't understand why so many here think Deangelo is not an elite talented player. It's like just because he doesn't have stupendess break away speed he's not considered elite. That's bullshit he has the best vision of any RB I have seen and he has the feet of Barry Sanders, nobody can shift as well as Williams does. It's like some of you think like that's not a god given ability, it sure as hell is. That easily makes up for whatever genetic freak "talent" that AP has.

my issue is, and always has been, the lopsided blind more times than not erroneous homerism for williams that has plagued this site.

williams is good, but he hasn't done enough.

it makes me wonder how much football some people have watched before williams came along.

[Davidson Deac II]

too much homerism in this thread.

if it helps people to sleep at night by putting williams over peterson because of his fumbles and lower ypc, then have at it.

people put way too much stock in ypc. anything over 4.0 is considered good.

the fact is, not many backs can carry the rock almost 1000x over 3 seasons and still eclipse 1300+ yards and 10+ TDs each season.

when your running back can consistently produce those numbers when you constantly feed him the ball without breaking down, you give him the rock.

that's why he's called "all day"...and that's why he's considered the best in the game regardless of his flaws.

I don't think he is now considered the best in the game, and this has nothing to do with DWill. He played well enough in the championship game, but the fumbles will give him the label of choker. And he really didn't play well for the entire second half of the season. Of course, his offensive line might have had something to do with that, but we are talking perception here.

[Sandy Claws]

Williams may not be the best back on our team.