Fox, Jake, Peppers, Moving on

[rico6]

Realistically in this order.

Peppers

Fox

Quickly Delhomme.

[pantherpain]

You're confusing elite with competitive.

Elite teams don't f**k the monkey every other year, nor do they wilt and fold whenever there are expectations on them.

We're a competitive team. We're nowhere near elite.

Agree, we like to pat ourselves on the back to much on this board sometimes.

[panthers55]

In a perfect world....Fox stays, Jake retires, and Pep signs and expensive yet reasonable long term deal.

In the real world, Fox stays, Jake stays and Peppers agrees to a one year tag of 20 million.

[Squirrel]

In the real world, Fox stays, Jake stays and Peppers agrees to a one year tag of 20 million.

Why in the world would we pay Peppers that!

[Lout]

You're confusing elite with competitive.

Elite teams don't f**k the monkey every other year, nor do they wilt and fold whenever there are expectations on them.

We're a competitive team. We're nowhere near elite.

Maybe "elite" was the wrong word, but we are the 2nd most successful team in the NFC in the last 7 years overall. No one can compare to Philly in the NFC.

[panthers55]

Why in the world would we pay Peppers that!

Because we value him for whatever reason and it is cheaper to pay him 20 million on a one year deal than pay him long-term to a 90 million deal and guaranteeing him 30-35 million which is what it would take.

This way we get his best years, are not on the hook for a long term contract and still come out cheaper. If 2011 is a lockup year it will be a great decision not to have to pay him a cent.

[Squirrel]

Because we value him for whatever reason and it is cheaper to pay him 20 million on a one year deal than pay him long-term to a 90 million deal and guaranteeing him 30-35 million which is what it would take.

This way we get his best years, are not on the hook for a long term contract and still come out cheaper. If 2011 is a lockup year it will be a great decision not to have to pay him a cent.

But if their is a cap we cripple ourselves. Plus the way the team is acting they dont have that much money to spare.

[unicar15]

I don't see Fox being a "lame duck" at all. He is one of the most well-respected coaches in the league and would be picked up at least as a coordinator if he left here.

There is no way he leaves on his own accord. He will stay and have his typical good season (after a bad one this year) and will probably get a contract extension out of it and the cycle will continue...

[panthers55]

But if their is a cap we cripple ourselves. Plus the way the team is acting they dont have that much money to spare.

There won't be a cap until 2011 and by then he will be approaching 32. We either let him go or sign him to a much lower contract. The money issue is that if there is a lockout, the team will be making no money but on the hook for lots of salaries. This way we cut out losses and owe him nothing.

[Squirrel]

There won't be a cap until 2011 and by then he will be approaching 32. We either let him go or sign him to a much lower contract. The money issue is that if there is a lockout, the team will be making no money but on the hook for lots of salaries. This way we cut out losses and owe him nothing.

Yeah but they will want to conserve some cash if there is a lockout. Last time I remebered a strike in the NFL was in 82. I know the NHL had one in 2002 or 2003 season where they didnt play. But in 82 the teams still played with scrubs. If there is a lockout I wouldnt be surprised if the teams did that again ( If they can).

[pantherpain]

Because we value him for whatever reason and it is cheaper to pay him 20 million on a one year deal than pay him long-term to a 90 million deal and guaranteeing him 30-35 million which is what it would take.

This way we get his best years, are not on the hook for a long term contract and still come out cheaper. If 2011 is a lockup year it will be a great decision not to have to pay him a cent.

Has any team ever tagged a player in back to back years? And for what would be close to 40 mill for 2 year's. Thats just crazy!

[Pantherman]

There won't be a cap until 2011 and by then he will be approaching 32. We either let him go or sign him to a much lower contract. The money issue is that if there is a lockout, the team will be making no money but on the hook for lots of salaries. This way we cut out losses and owe him nothing.

Umm by next training camp peppers will be 32. He is already 31 years ole right now. Where you been at.

[westcaro]

Just because Peppers is good doesn't mean we need to throw a lot of money at him. He either stays or leaves. He is not the team. He needs to realize that. We get some young defensive players in the draft along with one more running back. Once we do that and if, IF Moore can take over and do a better job than Delhomme, then we will be a better team. Only if Moore can do better than Delhomme.

[westcaro]

Everyone say it with me.....John Fox is a great coach. John Fox is a great coach.