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New Theory- The Buyout

Dpantherman

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Interesting article from profootballtalk.com:

We mentioned last night the possibility that the Panthers have opted to bring back coach John Fox because of a possible lockout in 2011.

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network has another theory that makes plenty of sense to us -- the Panthers might be trying to get Fox to leave without owing him the full $6 million he's due to receive in 2010....

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The lame duck angle of this story specifically aimed at Fox seems wrong to me. It seems that the plan for contracts of coaching personnel has been in place since last year (actually since Fox signed his extension). We didn't retain the entire defensive coaching staff except for a secondary coach. McCoy left as well. The reporting at the time stated the coaches were offered contracts, but chose to leave because of the length of the contracts they were offered in most cases. This is not anything new to those who work in the building IMO. Replacements were hired with contracts that expire before the lockout year. I think the plan is to keep Fox for until the lockout and retool the staff after the lockout if necessary. This buyout/unnamed source stuff sounds like an agent stirring the pot to me.

I would like to know how many other nfl coaches are in the last year of their contract. I think any well run franchise might approach the possibility of a lockout in the same mannner. Especially if they thought chances were in favor of a lockout. :( JR and co. are in a position to know better than most.

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The OG article

That puts Fox in a predicament, and I would not be surprised if his representation tries to find a way to reach a settlement that allows Fox to become a free agent of sorts. Simply quitting, and walking away from roughly $6 million in 2009, and being unable to coach elsewhere in the NFL, would be a lot to walk away from. But coaching out a lame-duck year without a mandate or pulpit to forge a team and lead men is far from ideal as well

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/12/28/carolina-situation-not-ideal-for-fox/

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If JR wanted him gone then he'd fire his ass. There isn't time to waste with mind games when you are trying to get another coach in there to take over.

If Fox isn't gone in 2 weeks then he's not going to be gone at all...

You dont show your cards at the begging of the game. If they are trying to get Fox to leave then ever who they have a replacement already know what the deal is. Give it til the end of January and if Fox is still here he will be here for next season.

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I consider Philly well run organization and they just extended Reid.
I think Philly is one of two teams that is not planning on pulling it's pension plan. Here are a couple of quotes from the article that led me to believe that.

National Football Post

The pension problem has some NFL coaches looking to catch on with teams like the Eagles, who take good care of their coaches, have a pension and have a leader like coach Andy Reid, who has juice with the owner.

To date, nine teams have decided to discontinue retirement funding for their coaching staffs. All benefits earned through 2008 are funded and are earned by all coaches with those nine teams.

Kennan believes that all teams, with the possible exception of two, will phase out their coaches’ pensions over the next two years

It looks like most teams are trying to deal with the lockout by reducing salaries.

Language for work-stoppage-related salary reductions started creeping into coaches’ contracts about two years ago. Currently, management is asking coaches to accept salary reductions of 50-75 percent of their 2011 salaries, depending on the length of a possible work stoppage.

I think the Panthers' plan is different from the above in that they have decided to simply have the coaching staff's contracts expire before the lockout and pay 0%.

There is some pretty serious unrest in the coaching ranks, wanting to unionize, etc. Some coaches may see the lockout as an opportunity to change their situation, although in the current climate I see the number of proven big name coaches not getting rehired as a message ownership is sending to them about unionization. I'm sure there is pressure from Fox's colleagues to "make a stand" about his situation, but I don't think he has the leverage when you evaluate the entire 2009 performance of the team.

The part I don't like is how it detracts from the football side of things. That's all I truly care about. To wit, I think Fox could well have been fired this year if labor troubles weren't looming ahead. Fired or not, I want whatever decisions are made by ownership to be about putting the best package of coaches/players on the field to win games, not to cover your ass because there might be a lockout.

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