Breaking News I knew about 10 years ago

[Happy Panther]

Mark McGwire has admitted he used steroids off and on for nearly a decade, including when he broke baseball's home run record in 1998.

[Jbro]

link?

[JakeFlake]

In related news, water is wet.

[Happy Panther]

link?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12771764/mcgwire-admits-using-steroids-during-record-setting-98-season

NEW YORK -- Mark McGwire finally came clean Monday, admitting he used steroids when he broke baseball's home run record in 1998.

McGwire said in a statement sent to the Associated Press on Monday that he used steroids on and off for nearly a decade and he apologizes for his actions.

He says: "I wish I had never touched steroids. It was foolish and it was a mistake. I truly apologize. Looking back, I wish I had never played during the steroid era."

[chbright]

now what to do with that info. do you let roid users in the HOF or not? what sucks is not eveyone used, but the % is not known. if it was 50%+ does that change things? what if it was 80%? do we just blow up the era and no one from the steriods era gets in? how can we know who didnt use and who did?

personally i dont like the fact they used it, and dont like the mofo's wont admit to it. atleast mark manned up, even if it took 10 years. i am split, he did it in an era when others did it, and still beat the poo out of the others using steriods, like guys not using in previous eras beat the poo outa the ball of guys not using roids. he also hit more than others using roids, so idk. im split on the issue personally. i mean the pitchers of this era pitch of a shorter mound, and that benifitted the batters, so do we look at pitchers before the mound hight change differently, same for hitters? not really. bats changed, parks got smaller, technology changes in balls, bats, cleats, and glove all helped the players perform better.

yet this is the 1st performance upgrade that really pisses people off.

[Happy Panther]

If I recall correctly, steroids were not specifically banned in 1998?

I think McGuire should be judged on his performance up until 2002 or whenever it was MLB came out with its steroid policy.

Just my opinion

[pstall]

This is like saying you saw Pamela Anderson naked.

But seriously, whether it was banned or not, I say NO to allowing any admitted users in the HOF.

UNLESS, it can be 100% proven it was strictly for medical recovery reasons.

[Happy Panther]

UNLESS, it can be 100% proven it was strictly for medical recovery reasons.

That would be fun to try

[2shy]

pstall I have no proof, BUT I'm willing to bet there are already HOFers that use PEDs in the hall. Even before roids, they were hopped on uppers. doc threw a perfect game on LSD. currently i believe around 30% of all MLB players have "ADD" prescriptions. That numbers has risen each year after drug policy took effert. Number was less than 1% pre-drug test, now 30%......

plus there are all sort of other loop holes, a GIANT one being HGH. im willing to guess the users of that is over 50%. many other victor chemist out there, move this and that and you have a new PED.

[tarheelpride]

In related news, water is wet.

shocker

[Johnny Rockets]

pstall I have no proof, BUT I'm willing to bet there are already HOFers that use PEDs in the hall. Even before roids, they were hopped on uppers. doc threw a perfect game on LSD. currently i believe around 30% of all MLB players have "ADD" prescriptions. That numbers has risen each year after drug policy took effert. Number was less than 1% pre-drug test, now 30%......

plus there are all sort of other loop holes, a GIANT one being HGH. im willing to guess the users of that is over 50%. many other victor chemist out there, move this and that and you have a new PED.

Great post....until they test for HGH then drug testng is useless. If they tested for HGH in the NFL, teams would not have enough players to field a team. (Nor would baseball, hockey, etc......)

[Epistaxis]

I don't understand the whole "it is ok if they used it to get back on the field"....then cue tearful blubbering.

Umm, if you used to just get back on the field, otherwise your ass would retire, like they used to have to do, instead of having a career rebirth at age 30+ (cough cough big redheaded penis cough cough Barroid Bonds).

The point is, these guys prolonged careers, enhanced careers, cheated baseball, and baseball itself in the form of that rat Bud Selig knew exactly what the hell was happening.

I despise them all. They cheated my game. They cheated my stats. They cheated my history. And they can all go fistscrew themselves.

Jerks.

[Kevin Greene]

Why would you have to ban what was already an illegal substance? Is it OK to murder the next days opposing pitcher?

Anyway, McGuire realized he ain't making it into the HOF playing his stupid game and played the I didn't need it "I only did it for injuries" Bullshit card.

Why isn't he banned from baseball? Pete Rose got a lifetime ban for doing something that never affected the outcome of a game.

McGuire and all the rest of the roiders need to be banned and barred from the HOF.

[pstall]

If we are gonna talk Rose. He should be in because of his playing days. He was never going to be confused with being a great baseball MGR.

Cheating is cheating. The use based on injuries is still tough. If that was not illegal and was the tech available at that time, I don't see the harm there. But to specifically use anything to boost your overall game, that I do think is dirtbaggish.