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Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands Proficient

Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hindsight being 20/20 and all that if we keep CMC, include Burns instead of Moore in the trade to Chicago for #1, then draft Stroud at #1 everything is so much different.

The harsh truth is that a no1 should elevate others play.  The texans have looked like ass again the last few weeks with stroud out.  Without him, they are a 4 win team.

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29 minutes ago, Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands said:

The harsh truth is that a no1 should elevate others play.  

So all talents are equal across the NFL? If this was the case there'd be no difference between having a guy like Mahomes and having a guy like Bryce. Having an OT like Trent Williams or having Byron Bell. Having a RB like CMC or having Chuba. Having a WR like Tyreek Hill and having TMJ. Good players elevate the play of their teammates, period. That's how team sports work.

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44 minutes ago, Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands said:

The harsh truth is that a no1 should elevate others play.  The texans have looked like ass again the last few weeks with stroud out.  Without him, they are a 4 win team.

Stroud also had by far his worst game in his last game before injury, putting up 6 points and less than 100 yards. Which just so happened to be his one game without Nico Collins and Tank Dell. So yes, weapons do matter…it’s not the QB’s job to single-handedly carry a weak receiving corps.

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1 hour ago, strato said:

You aren’t making a connection between what we watched all year and his abilities. Or the limitations imposed by his skill set. Those aren’t in question and don’t need answering. We should discuss what he Can do. 

What does that look like?

Today that was 65% completion 312 yards 2 TDS and 0 INTS. Any other questions?

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Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands Proficient

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So all talents are equal across the NFL? If this was the case there'd be no difference between having a guy like Mahomes and having a guy like Bryce. Having an OT like Trent Williams or having Byron Bell. Having a RB like CMC or having Chuba. Having a WR like Tyreek Hill and having TMJ. Good players elevate the play of their teammates, period. That's how team sports work.

Lol who said talents were equal across the nfl?   I said a no 1 elevates others which seems to be what you're saying

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      He was a more accurate passer at 56.2%. That's what I mean. Even by outlier standards, this dude was inaccurate. Closest I can recall to something like that would have been one of those GT QB's like Reggie Ball. Career 48.6% passer.
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