Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

season is over, are there ANY bryce believers left on this board?


Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

His suck would be nearly identical. Those guys Stroud played with never did poo until Stroud got there. Stroud elevates the guys around him, Bryce holds them back. 

This isnt a Darnold/Mayfield situation. Bryce lacks the requisite arm strength to even make the plays that Stroud has been making a routine basis. The guy is not a NFL QB.

Bryce would put up Teddy B type numbers if he was dropped onto the 49ers roster for a season, he is just not it. 

 

Pootie, they got a whole new coaching staff. An OC from the baby-Shanahan tree. Chark's game in Green Bay was the norm for them plus they were YAC machines. That's not just a QB. That's an offensive scheme. If nothing else, we know Bryce can throw a wr screen. Our WRs just can't do anything with them. Houston's big 3 could all take it the distance anytime. You have to respect all 3. Carolinas receivers are all basically possession receiver athletes, that run bad routes, and can't catch consistently. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Pootie, they got a whole new coaching staff. An OC from the baby-Shanahan tree. Chark's game in Green Bay was the norm for them plus they were YAC machines. That's not just a QB. That's an offensive scheme. If nothing else, we know Bryce can throw a wr screen. Our WRs just can't do anything with them. Houston's big 3 could all take it the distance anytime. You have to respect all 3. Carolinas receivers are all basically possession receiver athletes, that run bad routes, and can't catch consistently. 

If you want to give Bryce excuses thats cool, but im not going to hold my breath. I have seen enough of the 16/31 164 yards. I dont have any hope of next season being better if we signed prime Bill Walsh to be our HC. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Are you saying Bryce can't play under center? I disagree. He showed that he could. 

He can take snaps from under center and hand the ball off, but he cannot play extensively under center which makes our play calling extremely predictable. It is not hard to see, open your eyes. 

 

Edited by PootieNunu
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, 33inNC said:

I beg to differ, coverages are structured differently if there is no credible deep threat. Zone coverages will sit on short routes and clog up those throwing lanes. Do they leave WR's wide open deep?  No, but the coverages are different. 

If you don't think a guy can run by you, you let them eat your cushion because you can always catch them. DBs were down right disrespectful to our receivers this year. If you respect a guys speed, you give him 10 yards and turn to run when he's 2-3 yards away. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Gotcha. Which team passed the ball exclusively from under center in 2023?

None, but they have the ability too. Bryce cannot execute a simple 3 step drop from under center because he cant see the field. He has trouble seeing the field as it is in the pistol and shotgun formations. 

Dont be obtuse. Have an actual conversation.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

48 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Please tell us all how passing for less than 200 yards 11 times in the modern NFL is "not bad" QB play. It sure as hell isnt good QB play. 

With the amount of 150 yards games you would think he was playing NFL in the 50s. 

I watched the majority of his snaps this season, I am guessing half of you didnt. Nothing about his game this year gives me even a tiny bit of hope that he turns it around. I am looking forward to how high of a pick he can get us in the 2025 draft. 

Cause stats without context mean nothing. Every one who breaks down film can tell you it’s not like Bryce is missing a ton of reads and throws. We can’t even run a normal pass offense with this offensive line 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, PootieNunu said:

None, but they have the ability too. Bryce cannot execute a simple 3 step drop from under center because he cant see the field. He has trouble seeing the field as it is in the pistol and shotgun formations. 

Dont be obtuse. Have an actual conversation.

This is about as actual a conversation as I can have with someone who's obviously in their feelings and just trying to prove a point that isn't true. He passed from under center enough to show he can do it. If the OC decides not to call those plays, then...

Look it's been a horrible season. No need to be so obtuse that you make it worse than what it really was. As if one player is the reason this team won 2 games. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

This is about as actual a conversation as I can have with someone who's obviously in their feelings and just trying to prove a point that isn't true. He passed from under center enough to show he can do it. If the OC decides not to call those plays, then...

Look it's been a horrible season. No need to be so obtuse that you make it worse than what it really was. As if one player is the reason this team won 2 games. 

Show me the plays that he passed form under center that wasnt a screen or a roll out on play action. It has nothing to do with being in my feelings. He cannot do it. 

He was a major contributing factor in us only winning two games. We werent winning the super bowl even if we had the best QB in the league, but we could have done a hell of a lot better than 2 wins. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Cause stats without context mean nothing. Every one who breaks down film can tell you it’s not like Bryce is missing a ton of reads and throws. We can’t even run a normal pass offense with this offensive line 

We cant run a normal pass offense because little man has to be 10 yards behind the OL to see the field which creates easy lanes for the pass rush to eat him alive. Couple this with the fact he cannot pass accurately over 15 yards down field and it is a recipe for disaster. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Show me the plays that he passed form under center that wasnt a screen or a roll out on play action. It has nothing to do with being in my feelings. He cannot do it. 

He was a major contributing factor in us only winning two games. We werent winning the super bowl even if we had the best QB in the league, but we could have done a hell of a lot better than 2 wins. 

So now it can't be a screen or roll out? 🙄 

You acknowledged that no team passes exclusively from under center. Probably 5% of passes at most. Why does it even matter?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • There's nothing wrong with Sanders,  he's a good receiving TE.  Canales just doesn't use the TE that way.  He won't get the looks to break out.  
    • I thought he had a few really nice flashes.  I can see him showing out this year 
    • I have heard that before--when standing in front of a full body mirror at Old Navy.  I said it, actually. Seriously, Let's go on what we know. There is reason for optimism that exceeds random opinions and negativity: 1. Last year, the offense was the priority and the interior offensive line was the focal point. Morgan addressed it in free agency and the draft. They improved.  2.  Last year, Canales pulled Young after 2 games and replaced him with an established veteran.  Instead of giving up on Young, he developed him, primarily focusing on his footwork and timing.  Continued development in his fundamentals should result in improved play.  (this is significant because some athletes rely on natural ability and do not adapt well.  They resort to old habits. This means that Bryce is "teachable" and is willing to face adversity and fight through it.  That is what you want in a QB.) 3. Morgan drafted a raw talent at WR; and we all knew he was raw.  Huddlers are already calling it a bust, but his productivity numbers were in line with the other WRs drafted around where he was drafted.  So, yes, he was a bit disappointing, but what part of "Raw" is not understood here?  Evil Bryce, then inconsistent Dalton, then good Bryce--all while facing the top defensive backs--and let's not forget about his lingering injuries--and we should understand XL's productivity.  Morgan was looking for a home run based on XL's 1-season productivity and his freakish athleticism, but I always thought we would not know what we have until year 2.  TMac alone will make XL better--a solid #2. 4.  If you blame Morgan for drafting XL, you must give him credit for making Coker a priority free agent.  In my view, he addressed WR in 2024 pretty effectively in the long view.  5.  Let's look at the rest of the draft.  Brooks?  The best RB in the draft in round 2?  Morgan was attempting to build a solid run game behind Bryce.  Wallace was a very solid third round pick at LB. Sanders is a strong TE for a fourth round pick. 6.  Not much is being said about the development of Chau Smith-Wade.  His improvement mirrors Bryce Young's, actually.  In his first 8 games, his PFF rating was 36.5.  In the final 9 games, his PFF rating was 66.7.   7.  With so many needs, Morgan hit the UDFA market with success. In addition to Coker, Demani Richardson got 400+ snaps and had a 60.1 PFF grade, including an interception. 8.  In free agency, Morgan spent big bucks on Guards, a move that made his QB better. He added David Moore, Nijman,  He signed Clowney, Wonnum, Robinson, Jewel, Chaisson, Fuller, Scott, D. Jackson, Dionte Johnson, etc.  A few years of Fitterer left him with more holes that players.  Some did not work out, but he did all this on a budget (after he splurged on Lewis and Hunt).  It is hard to get a free agent to come to a team that loses--so in some cases, Morgan had to overpay or accept questionable players. Morgan's first year as a GM demonstrated an understanding of the game like we have not seen since Polian, before his lost it. Canales, on the other hand, should be rated by the improvement of players.  Zavala, Ekwonu, Mays, Young, Smith-Wade, Coker, Wallace--all improved.  He had to overcome major losses such as D. Brown, Shaq, Dionte Johnson, Corbett--and we saw growth.  Despite all this team went through, after 8 games of disarray, This team finished 4-5 with close losses to both Super Bowl teams.  Frankly, I do not know how he did it. This year was better.  The WR room is solid with depth.  The OL room is solid with depth.  The TE room is as good as it has been in a while.  The RB room has the potential to be as good as it was when we had 28 and 34.  DBs?  Better.  DL?  Better.  Edge?  better.  The bottom of the roster?  Much better. We really don't know what we have yet, and that makes this offseason exciting.      
×
×
  • Create New...