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Statue For Jake Delhomme

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By KatsAzz,
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Why would we give him the same honor bestowed upon Sam Mills?

The Sam Mills who only played 2 years for us? That Sam Mills? Come on man 2 years is nothing. He was a monster in those 2 years but I don't think it's smart comparing him and guys like Delhomme, Minter, Kasay, hell even Peppers. These are guys that are basically career Panthers.

Jake Delhomme is one of the most influential players we ever had. His day is done here but I firmly believe he's right up there with guys like Mike Minter, John Kasay and Sam Mills, who all did great things for the team. When we signed him, we FINALLY became perennial playoff contenders. And he did it for 7 years... well... 6 years.

The guy is gone now. People need to stop hating him. He's not our problem anymore.

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The Sam Mills who only played 2 years for us? That Sam Mills? Come on man 2 years is nothing. He was a monster in those 2 years but I don't think it's smart comparing him and guys like Delhomme, Minter, Kasay, hell even Peppers. These are guys that are basically career Panthers.

Jake Delhomme is one of the most influential players we ever had. His day is done here but I firmly believe he's right up there with guys like Mike Minter, John Kasay and Sam Mills, who all did great things for the team. When we signed him, we FINALLY became perennial playoff contenders. And he did it for 7 years... well... 6 years.

The guy is gone now. People need to stop hating him. He's not our problem anymore.

You forget Sam Mills was also a GREAT LB coach for us after he played here, and he did soo much in the community before he died. You could also make a case for Minter being there, but not Jake. EVER. It's not about hating him, I like him as a person, and would love to see him come back here in some capacity, like the local radio station. He is not, however, deserving of a statue.

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