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why matt moore will be successful here in carolina


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What most people have failed to realize is that Matt Moore has been able to complete passes to Steve Smith in the time that he has been given to perform. He's taken every single opportunity that he's been given and has turned in outstanding report cards. Of the million quarterbacks that we've brought in over the past five or six years to back-up Jake Delhomme, Matt Moore has been the only one to complete a multitude of passes to Steve Smith. Yeah, a lot of quarterbacks have gotten the ball to Smith, like Vinny Testaverde for instance. Yet he only did it a few times, and never was really on the same page as Smith. Even the deep ball he threw to him during that Cardinals game back in 2007, he thought he had over thrown his man. Matt Moore doesn't over throw Steve Smith, he puts it on the numbers, or in a place where Smith can make a play for it. And he's done it consistently. It's not gonna be hard to get Smith the ball for Moore, but doing it consistently takes time, effort, and a lot of film review. This is why I believe Matt Moore will be successful in Carolina. Not only will he be able to get the ball to Smith, but he'll also know when to check it down or get it to his second or third options. See highlights from week 15 when Moore tore apart the Vikings defense http://www.nfl.com/videos/carolina-panthers/09000d5d81523594/WK-15-Matt-Moore-highlights or pretty much any of the games he played in at the end of last season. I just really like watching Antoine Winfield pout like a little baby when Smith destroys him on that deep throw!

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we'll see after this season. i am not sold on matt moore yet. i hope that everyone here is right about him, but the truth is that none of his opponenets had any film to study. this year, our opponenets will know what to expect. will he still be able to make plays after that? i hope so.

he played 3 games in 2007, and it's not as if teams couldn't look at the games he had played in 2009.

Minnesota and New York weren't surprised when he took the field.

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What most people have failed to realize is that Matt Moore has been able to complete passes to Steve Smith in the time that he has been given to perform. He's taken every single opportunity that he's been given and has turned in outstanding report cards. Of the million quarterbacks that we've brought in over the past five or six years to back-up Jake Delhomme, Matt Moore has been the only one to complete a multitude of passes to Steve Smith. Yeah, a lot of quarterbacks have gotten the ball to Smith, like Vinny Testaverde for instance. Yet he only did it a few times, and never was really on the same page as Smith. Even the deep ball he threw to him during that Cardinals game back in 2007, he thought he had over thrown his man. Matt Moore doesn't over throw Steve Smith, he puts it on the numbers, or in a place where Smith can make a play for it. And he's done it consistently. It's not gonna be hard to get Smith the ball for Moore, but doing it consistently takes time, effort, and a lot of film review. This is why I believe Matt Moore will be successful in Carolina. Not only will he be able to get the ball to Smith, but he'll also know when to check it down or get it to his second or third options. See highlights from week 15 when Moore tore apart the Vikings defense http://www.nfl.com/videos/carolina-panthers/09000d5d81523594/WK-15-Matt-Moore-highlights or pretty much any of the games he played in at the end of last season. I just really like watching Antoine Winfield pout like a little baby when Smith destroys him on that deep throw!

I'd HOPE our starting QB can get the ball to our #1 consistently, and know when to check it down. Jesus ths post is stupid.

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I'd HOPE our starting QB can get the ball to our #1 consistently, and know when to check it down. Jesus ths post is stupid.

And... you're a douche for not understanding the post. I was trying to make a valid point as to why Matt Moore will be successful here in Carolina, where other quarterbacks that our FO has tried to bring in have failed. Some quarterbacks (ie. Jake Delhomme) don't know how to get the ball to their #1 guy and/or how to check it down when necessary. And a lot of people keep saying that we need to trade for a quarterback or draft one.. when it's pointless to do such a thing because we already have a QB who will be successful in our system. Now I know why I hate coming on these dumb ass discussion boards... because of redneck retards like you!

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The numbers don't say he got the ball to Smith consistently.

Tampa-3 receptions for 78 yards

New England-2 receptions for 83 yards

Minnesota- 9 receptions for 157 yards

New York Giants- 5 receptions for 60 yards

New Orleans- did not play

What the numbers show is that Moore was able to get the ball down the field to Smith on a couple of big plays and that in one case had a big game against Minnesota.

But consistently means more than a few catches a game interspersed with one big game. In order for your statement to be true they need to have several big games each season and every week average 6 or more catches a game.

So far there is little to suggest that he can consistently get the ball to Smith. Delhomme was just so bad that the bar was set very low.

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I was impressed by how Moore spread the ball around when he played last season... something we didn't see from that other guy... Get the TE's involved, get Jarrett involved (who I think is going to have a good year) and get another speed guy out there involved.

This is basically what I think. I really feel that Jarrett will be a solid #2/3, and that the biggest problem was that Jake rarely looked his way. Also, when he was in the game, it was usually as a blocker, but I did see him open several times where he was not targeted. So while many look at his low catch total and judge him a bust, I look at it and see a guy that has not been fully utilized. So with Matt coming in and already displaying the ability to spread the ball around, I fully expect Jarrett to have a very solid year.

With that said, I really do think we still need a receiver with good speed, and it doesn't necessarily have to be blazing straight line speed, but a guy that is very quick and has a good burst to give him separation from the DB. That's why I am probably leaning toward Mardy Gilyard as my #1 target (realistically since the Golden Tate's will likely be long gone by our pick). Another guy that I am intrigued by is Taylor Price from Ohio. He has good size and speed, and he was beating all the top CB's at the senior bowl practice, and caught just about anything that came near him. I have never seen him play, but based on his measurables and what I saw of him at the senior bowl practices, I think he would be a solid pick-up in the 3rd or 4th round.

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