Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

2001 and 2010 rebuilding


Cavscout

Recommended Posts

2001:

Carolina Starting Over

NFC West Preview

Dateline: August 16, 2001

Head coach George Seifert is taking his Carolina Panthers on a youth movement this season, and he started the process by releasing veteran quarterback Steve Beuerlein during the off-season. Along with Beuerlein went eight other veterans 30 years and older, including cornerback Eric Davis and fullback William Floyd.

2010:

What we saw on Friday was the beginning of a young movement, a purging of 30-something-year-old players with an eye toward the future. The team parted ways with quarterback Jake Delhomme, defensive tackles Damione Lewis and Maake Kemoeatu and linebackers Na’il Diggs and Landon Johnson and figure to replace them with younger players.

Good news...The first time the team did this they went to the Superbowl in 3 years.

Bad News...They finished 1 and 15 the next year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't understand this rebuilding year stuff. Our starting secondary and linebacking corps is the same. Our offensive line, tight ends, running backs and at least 3 of our wide receivers will be the same. The only significant rebuilding spot is defensive line, and even there, we are bringing back Tyler, Brown, Johnson, and Leonard,guys with some potential. And free agency isn't done.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What scares me is right now Hilee Taylor is our 3rd DE..................................... I don't mind Hilee getting a shot, but ehhh can we get 2 more DE's please.....They can be picked up after the draft or in the draft or cheap vet pick up's in FA...just need more bodies there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Oh come on dude, you don't think Peppers was a drag in the locker room? Beason didn't call him out because everything was peaches. Everyone knew he didn't want to be there. That's a killer on morale. Drop the dead weight and start guys who want to win a Super Bowl.

No.I think Peppers was respected in the locker room. you said its improvement in attitude.I dont think thats true seeing as we just cut Diggs,Lewis,Jake...All leaders of the locker room.Now if we can come out winning then new leaders outside of Beason will step up.But if we start bad then you we will see how young this team is because they will lose focus quick.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

People are mistaking a "youth movement" for what is really just a salary dump. All of these old guys were on a downward slide and had expensive contracts. Some idea started floating around that we only wanted guys around 25 years old and it's just made up. We're looking at that 33 year old DE right now.

This is more like a renovation than rebuilding. We have many, many pieces in place for a playoff run.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My point on attitude was directed at Peppers. His ability was respected but, again, if he was respected as a football player, he wouldn't have been called out through the media by THE leader of the defense. He didn't want to be here. Period. Have you ever played a team sport alongside a person who didn't really want to win or even play? It's frustrating. Diggs was a role player whose age indicates a decline while playing at a position of strength for this team. Jake was a leader but he would have been a huge distraction on the bench and one of the worst starters in the league on the field. And Damione Lewis was a leader? ok. We don't lose much by cutting any of those three.

You started talking about the locker room.I said we will lose leadership in the locker room.Nothing to do with their play.I am talking about leadership in the locker room.If its one thing you have to give Peppers is that he was respected..in the lockerroom.That has nothing to do with Beason being in the wrong and calling Peppers out in the media.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I appreciate the honesty in your posts--I am not sure Canales is rusing(?) because I don't think we are good enough yet to draft players for depth on day 1.  I do think we are in limbo, fwiw.  At 19, I think you are drafting second rounders in the first.
    • We are in a unique situation here. Just my opinion. Three things: Moton’s playing health has been gradually declining as he is aging, while his contract is a drag on the payroll.  Something will give with him sooner than later but I think 2026 could be it.  So.. need a right tackle by 2027. At the latest.    Icky’s individual situation is unique as well. They would have had an extension done by now if not for the injury. We only have him for this year. With no assurance he will ever be the same player.  It would be reckless just to assume. Now we have Walker for one year. And that is a major relief. Maybe he is the answer, but the team that knows him best let him go and it was cheap for us to sign him. So how much did they value him?    We look to be needing two tackles by 2027.  And have poo for depth this year as well. So anyway we could draft a guy for 2027 RT and groom him this year, and see how Icky does, and act as needed in 2027. Spread out filling the two holes over 2 years.    Then I remember, hey if Bryce doesn’t get a Lot more consistent do they extend him? Hoping not, if he isn’t really good.    So then we are looking at the 2027 draft which people say is gonna be loaded with QBs. If we need a LT and a QB what is the pick gonna get spent on?   Taking into account the recovery success rates cited here on the Icky surgery, you might want to plan for him to not be the same player. rather than assume he will be and get caught with your pants down.  It is a tough situation.    And factor in that it is critically important to protect this QB, always, but especially this year where it is said to be make or break. And how you might feel about that.    All of it points to a real possibility that these things converge in the negative, like Bruce sucks and Icky is not the same. In that case if you want to be assured of getting LT secured, the only place you can do that through the draft could be very well be 2026 1st round.     For me, I would like to err on the side of caution.  Cover for these outcomes. It wouldn’t be fun. Added benefit is if we do have a tackle go down this year we will have a guy there. Because I don’t know what we have now.  
    • I agree. In a perfect world I wouldn’t want to draft another WR, but in this draft it’s fine based on the value of who will be there at #19.  All of the top tier guys worth pick #19 at other positions of need will be long gone. Only exception is Dillon Thieneman, but he’s almost a shoe in for the Vikings as the Harrison Smith replacement. Some posters on here want to draft an OT just to check a box without realizing the concerns and risk that comes along with said player. Sounds like XL to me… desperately drafting need… KC is a pretty safe player.  Produced all 3 years in college and last year in the SEC vs a lot of top corners in this years draft. He single handily dropped the South Carolina CB Brandon Cisse’s draft stock with how bad he abused him.   Sometimes it’s best to try and hit a double instead of going for the home run. This draft screams “go for the double”. Esp in the first. 
×
×
  • Create New...