WR Diontae Johnson to the Panthers

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, chbright said:

Well, one bad contract of another. Johnson has potential to be top 10 WR. but man he already started the on the field post Pittsburgh AB antics in Pittsburgh with a questionable QB. Idk this could get really spicy. Let's hope we can feed him and keep him happy, cause of so we likely are doing worlds better than last year in the passing game.

It will not matter that much. He's basically on a 1 year prove it deal here. That will decide his fate here. If he wants it he will have to earn it. I seriously doubt they plan on him being anything other than that until his replacement is drafted. 

[steelhead]

10 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Late to the party but I had him in Fantasy last season. Massive let down. But to be fair, he was hurt AND not their #1. Hopefully he can be happy being the #1 here ... even with you know who throwing him the ball.

Ummm he was our #1, who told you he wasn't? Pickens was practically benched a couple games, as well so many below 50 yards.  By Chance have you bothered to look at his 2022 year of a whopping zero touchdowns. 

[Krovvy]

4 minutes ago, steelhead said:

If I could start a thread, I would.  

I'm a Steeler fan and was looking to see what there is about Donte. And seen yinz say he was good but was over priced. 

But then I saw y'all thinking Johnson is good and thinking you would the trade...... I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Johnson is meh. Be prepared for him to catch and go backwards 5 years and then start moving up the field. 

Yeah, I don't want to hear memes about negative YAC. He's far better than anyone on this roster and better than probably all the receivers we've had since Steve Smith & D.J. Moore. I know you guys have been spoiled with receivers this past decade but let me be the first to inform you that it can be a difficult position to draft and develop.

Having said that, Donte Jackson is a starting caliber corner, that I expect will play well at the CB2 position barring injury.

[steelhead]

7 minutes ago, chbright said:

Well, one bad contract of another. Johnson has potential to be top 10 WR. but man he already started the on the field post Pittsburgh AB antics in Pittsburgh with a questionable QB. Idk this could get really spicy. Let's hope we can feed him and keep him happy, cause of so we likely are doing worlds better than last year in the passing game.

Wait what? Johnson is a potential top 10? I'm dying. Dude had zero touchdowns 2 years ago. He was forced in the #1 slot and he is just meh. There's a reason why he's only getting paid 10 million. 

 

Oh and be prepared for him to drop 5 yards back after his catch, and then he makes a move. 

[chbright]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

It will not matter that much. He's basically on a 1 year prove it deal here. That will decide his fate here. If he wants it he will have to earn it. I seriously doubt they plan on him being anything other than that until his replacement is drafted. 

I'm not exactly thrilled but as a wild card on offense where we sucked. Wide range of outcomes for him. Cause this is a swap it's the one move that likely cost nothing in cap or personnel with the highest chance to move the needle. I'm not convinced it does though.

[steelhead]

1 minute ago, Krovvy said:

Yeah, I don't want to hear memes about negative YAC. He's far better than anyone on this roster and better than probably all the receivers we've had since Steve Smith & D.J. Moore. I know you guys have been spoiled with receivers this past decade but let me be the first to inform you that it can be a difficult position to draft and develop.

Having said that, Donte Jackson is a starting caliber corner, that I expect will play well at the CB2 position barring injury.

Thanks, I appreciate that. Because we have been burned last year. P² was a joke. And the boy we drafted was a #2. Which was hard on him because of no one to help him.  

 

I hope the best for Johnson. Some times that move off dropping back 5 and then making a move worked. But it scares the heck out of you. 

Also our QB suck. Last couple of years with Ben we thought was bad, but it went to being a nightmare. So maybe Johnson can be better.

Also our OC was an idiot. (I would curse and say worse, but I'm not sure what is allowed here).... so maybe Johnson can be better. 

 

George Pickens seems to be good for us. But there's an attitude. I like it, but most fans hate it. 

[steelhead]

last year he would just watch stuff. Like a fumble happen.... so I hope your coach lights a fire into him. And he doen't turn out like Claypool for the bears. 

 

 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, chbright said:

I'm not exactly thrilled but as a wild card on offense where we sucked. Wide range of outcomes for him. Cause this is a swap it's the one move that likely cost nothing in cap or personnel with the highest chance to move the needle. I'm not convinced it does though.

Given what we gave up i think we have nothing to lose by taking a chance on him. I know nothing about him but I do know Donte. Getting something for Donte no matter the outcome is a win.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

9 minutes ago, steelhead said:

Ummm he was our #1, who told you he wasn't? Pickens was practically benched a couple games, as well so many below 50 yards.  By Chance have you bothered to look at his 2022 year of a whopping zero touchdowns. 

Are you a troll? Pickens was your number 1. 1,141 yds and 5 TDs. And had 800 yds and 4 TDs in 2022 as a rookie. What are you trying to even argue here?

[Krovvy]

1 minute ago, steelhead said:

Thanks, I appreciate that. Because we have been burned last year. P² was a joke. And the boy we drafted was a #2. Which was hard on him because of no one to help him.  

 

I hope the best for Johnson. Some times that move off dropping back 5 and then making a move worked. But it scares the heck out of you. 

Also our QB suck. Last couple of years with Ben we thought was bad, but it went to being a nightmare. So maybe Johnson can be better.

Also our OC was an idiot. (I would curse and say worse, but I'm not sure what is allowed here).... so maybe Johnson can be better. 

 

George Pickens seems to be good for us. But there's an attitude. I like it, but most fans hate it. 

I'm higher on Jackson than most, but here's a little more.

In my opinion he's a very decent corner. He can tackle well for a corner and more importantly wants to make the tackle, which at times has gotten him hurt. He has decent hands for a corner and tracks balls well. He's on the smaller side, but gives 100% effort, and plays with fire — is a talker. He can get burned, but so can anyone really, so I never faulted him, especially in last year's disaster of a team.

His health is the biggest concern. If he stays healthy I think he will play well.

[steelhead]

https://youtube.com/shorts/l514q9vpSJk?si=oICE8Nw7XmdPTuPu

 

This is what to be prepared for after he catches. He'll drop back 5 yards and then break out. Some times it will work, some times it bites. 

[steelhead]

5 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Are you a troll? Pickens was your number 1. 1,141 yds and 5 TDs. And had 800 yds and 4 TDs in 2022 as a rookie. What are you trying to even argue here?

Look at receptions. Two years ago Johnson was #1. Last year Pickens didn't start getting the ball until the end for receptions. 

 

Just because Pickens put up great numbers, doesn't make him a #1. 

[WUnderhill]

2 minutes ago, steelhead said:

https://youtube.com/shorts/l514q9vpSJk?si=oICE8Nw7XmdPTuPu

 

This is what to be prepared for after he catches. He'll drop back 5 yards and then break out. Some times it will work, some times it bites. 

Huh? That can’t be what you’re talking about. He ran a comeback and made the defender miss.

[steelhead]

9 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

I'm higher on Jackson than most, but here's a little more.

In my opinion he's a very decent corner. He can tackle well for a corner and more importantly wants to make the tackle, which at times has gotten him hurt. He has decent hands for a corner and tracks balls well. He's on the smaller side, but gives 100% effort, and plays with fire — is a talker. He can get burned, but so can anyone really, so I never faulted him, especially in last year's disaster of a team.

His health is the biggest concern. If he stays healthy I think he will play well.

Thanks. We coach up tackling, so that will be nice to see he didn't need that training. 

Health we are meh on.