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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

fair question, is when does scheme and play calling factor into a run game being league worst. 

I mean, we had virtually the no threat of attacking teams downfield.  Had really bad OL play.   Were probably one of if not the most predictable offenses in the NFL......and our lead back was (no disrespect) Hubbard .  AND we outperformed the Tampa run game. 

True, and they had actual NFL Wr's to keep the secondary honest. On paper I wonder how their 2023 roster stacks up to our current one

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8 minutes ago, CRA said:

fair question, is when does scheme and play calling factor into a run game being league worst. 

I mean, we had virtually the no threat of attacking teams downfield.  Had really bad OL play.   Were probably one of if not the most predictable offenses in the NFL......and our lead back was (no disrespect) Hubbard .  AND we outperformed the Tampa run game. 

It's a legit question that I'm honestly not sure on (also-I was wrong-forgot they brought Bredeson in this offseason, Stinnie was there but pretty bad).  But they notably went in with a rookie, new parts, and it wasn't pretty. 

They were 4th worst run-blocking, we were 5th worst ha.  

Wirfs and Goedeke were zone capable, but the others were pretty freaking bad.  

What gives me a bit more hope is what Hunt could bring.  Only 2 penalties all last season, strong zone blocker, proven with looks we'll be running.  Lewis was aight in SEA, should have improvement at LG, but it's Hunt who could really fortify the right side next to Moton. 

Incremental, not thinking the there's some glow up, but if Brooks eventually gets going behind these guys, that could be the engine that gets things turning if the passing game is still falling apart.  And then we can run to open up the rest.  Not ideal, but I see some hope in getting a running game going.  

 

 

 

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On 5/28/2024 at 6:10 AM, micnificent28 said:

Huge fan of this guy he regularly does draft content but every year he does breakdowns of teams and since he has been evaluating players has a deep knowledge of every player on each team. Awesome listen if you got the time plus he is moving to charlotte could be a future huddler.

Watched this as well. 

Didnt post it because of its length and people wanting a synopsis 

his points on young, were spot on in my opinion 

it was fair, balanced etc

i agree with many that Young will never have the tools to be elite and everything around him has to be perfect.  

nothing personnel, but thats not the nfl world and in my mind, that’s not what the number overall pick  should  be 

that said, I'm going to stop analyzing him, its not going to change, try snd Enjoy the season, hope they are competitive and that Young makes us all look like fools..at least for a game or two

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