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Pete Carroll on Canales (New Fox Sports Article)

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2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I'm pretty sure you have stated concerns about him being a first year HC after only being an OC once and wanting to call plays.  I would say that is thinking he is in over his head regardless of the QB situation.  I'm not saying you are wrong either as it is a valid concern.  Hopefully we show some patience with him to see what he can do.  

I have also said I think a young Jake Delhomme would be a good pairing for Canales and what he wants to do. 

QB has a lot to do with how I think Canales will do.  I don’t think he is in a place where he needs a QB that doesn’t fit what he does.  That’s more problems for a guy who doesn’t need them.  

I have said I got no issue with Canales

Got none with Bryce if we were to build a Bryce O around him starting last year with a scheme that fit him 

I don’t like the marriage of of Canales O and Bryce. Too similar to last year where the QB and O don’t fit in my eyes.  And Canales and the OC are both super green.  They just need to be able to focus on their basics IMO.  Bryce doesn’t allow that 

 

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14 minutes ago, CRA said:

I have also said I think a young Jake Delhomme would be a good pairing for Canales and what he wants to do. 

QB has a lot to do with how I think Canales will do.  I don’t think he is in a place where he needs a QB that doesn’t fit what he does.  That’s more problems for a guy who doesn’t need them.  

I have said I got no issue with Canales

Got none with Bryce if we were to build a Bryce O around him starting last year with a scheme that fit him 

I don’t like the marriage of of Canales O and Bryce. Too similar to last year where the QB and O don’t fit in my eyes 

 

Yes you have said all of that as well. I was just saying having concerns about a one year OC transitioning to HC and trying to call plays like you have stated before as well implies he could be in over his head this first year. I’m not calling you out or anything. It’s a concern and I’m sure there will be some growing pains along the way.

As for the Bryce thing, he is either a NFL QB or he isn’t. If he doesn’t look any better this year, then I think we simply move on and let Canales pick his guy. I think Beck has a big arm if that’s his type. Trying to build a very unique roster just to see if he can find success isn’t a good idea IMO. If he looks much better this year then sure you can cater a little more to his skillset. 

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Yes you have said all of that as well. I was just saying having concerns about a one year OC transitioning to HC and trying to call plays like you have stated before as well implies he could be in over his head this first year. I’m not calling you out or anything. It’s a concern and I’m sure there will be some growing pains along the way.

As for the Bryce thing, he is either a NFL QB or he isn’t. If he doesn’t look any better this year, then I think we simply move on and let Canales pick his guy. I think Beck has a big arm if that’s his type. Trying to build a very unique roster just to see if he can find success isn’t a good idea IMO. If he looks much better this year then sure you can cater a little more to his skillset. 

Yes, but Bryce Young is what amplifies that concern for me for a super green HC and OC.  

it’s all and marriages by Tepper IMO.  Canales and the new OC probably would have a better time getting their O running with a vet QB that is a natural fit.  

again, I’m not arguing Canales and Morgan should be catering to Bryce at this point.  Just pointing out how pointless drafting Bryce looks at this stage.  And I don’t disagree you either can play or can’t and the O is irrelevant at this level.   I mean fit matters at this level.  Everyone is too talented.  Fit makes or breaks careers. 

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20 minutes ago, CRA said:

Yes, but Bryce Young is what amplifies that concern for me for a super green HC and OC.  

it’s all and marriages by Tepper IMO.  Canales and the new OC probably would have a better time getting their O running with a vet QB that is a natural fit.  

again, I’m not arguing Canales and Morgan should be catering to Bryce at this point.  Just pointing out how pointless drafting Bryce looks at this stage.  And I don’t disagree you either can play or can’t and the O is irrelevant at this level.   I mean fit matters at this level.  Everyone is too talented.  Fit makes or breaks careers. 

Scheme and fit matter definitely, but if you are an NFL QB (especially a talented one) there will be flashes and some signs. I think the ones that get their careers broken are in inadequate offenses (bad weapons, bad OL, no running game etc…) and a constant turnover of staff can do it. Basically what the Bears did with Fields and what we have done with Bryce so far. 

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On 6/5/2024 at 2:05 PM, Mother Grabber said:

but the coaching gurus on here say he’s in over his head. 

Coaching gurus on here = fat guys with big mouths who never played a sport in their life except maybe a pie eating contest or two entered

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The Panthers aren't building a Bryce Young roster. Alabama didn't recruit personnel to fit a Bryce Young scheme. Canales' approach is to build an NFL roster (which they didn't have last season) and then cater his scheme and playcalling to what the players do best. The team is not pigeon holing itself into an offense that doesn't fit any other QB. Their goal this off-season was to provide NFL average or better talent to the offense - period. Very little to do with matching personnel for  Bryce Young's skillset or lack thereof.

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On 6/7/2024 at 10:07 AM, Navy_football said:

The Panthers aren't building a Bryce Young roster. Alabama didn't recruit personnel to fit a Bryce Young scheme. Canales' approach is to build an NFL roster (which they didn't have last season) and then cater his scheme and playcalling to what the players do best. The team is not pigeon holing itself into an offense that doesn't fit any other QB. Their goal this off-season was to provide NFL average or better talent to the offense - period. Very little to do with matching personnel for  Bryce Young's skillset or lack thereof.

Well said! 

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