Hurricane Helene thread - Not a football thread but y’all be safe *keep politics, conspiracy theories, and and tinderbox squabbles out of this*

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Read in an earlier post you live around exit 105 on I-40. I grew up playing silver creek right there 25 years ago. Fun area. 

I knew the owner's son. They were reeeeeeeednecks. Like the good fun kind. I have stories I'll decline to share publicly about the fun we had during the development of the course and the early days of the course. Played it many times. IMO new ownership has ruined it. They shrunk all the greens to postage stamp size. The designer was threatening to force them to remove his name from it but not sure he ever followed through.

[strato]

So, you guys up that way... 

What were you expecting? Were people being warned? 

With the deaths, it sounds like a hurricane party and no one talkng it seriously, but I was not there to know so am curious. 

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, strato said:

So, you guys up that way... 

What were you expecting? Were people being warned? 

With the deaths, it sounds like a hurricane party and no one talkng it seriously, but I was not there to know so am curious. 

Everyone knew it was going to be bad. I think a lot of people are always going to assume it won't be THAT bad. I knew it wasn't going to be 1916 in terms of water levels bad but I didn't expect it to be this bad myself. I was expecting 2004ish. We got more like 1940ish. It got really bad really fast toward the tail end. Had it not stopped when it did it was gonna get apocalyptic pretty quick. If these new storms forming come through here it's gonna get apocalyptic.

[strato]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Everyone knew it was going to be bad. I think a lot of people are always going to assume it won't be THAT bad. I knew it wasn't going to be 1916 in terms of water levels bad but I didn't expect it to be this bad myself. I was expecting 2004ish. We got more like 1940ish. It got really bad really fast toward the tail end. Had it not stopped when it did it was gonna get apocalyptic pretty quick. If these new storms forming come through here it's gonna get apocalyptic.

Thanks. I guess I have some reading to do I don’t have any local knowledge about previous water events. 
 

PS I think in the future the people who lived and paid little mind, don’t do that again. 
 

For years and years I have had to prepare for hurricanes that were less than predicted mostly because they missed us.
You can’t afford to ignore the threat. 

Edited October 1, 2024 by strato

[CamWhoaaCam]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Everyone knew it was going to be bad. I think a lot of people are always going to assume it won't be THAT bad. I knew it wasn't going to be 1916 in terms of water levels bad but I didn't expect it to be this bad myself. I was expecting 2004ish. We got more like 1940ish. It got really bad really fast toward the tail end. Had it not stopped when it did it was gonna get apocalyptic pretty quick. If these new storms forming come through here it's gonna get apocalyptic.

I just seen a video on YT of Asheville and most of the comments were the place looks Apocalyptic. I visit Asheville once a year and that place looks unrecognizable. 

 

Also Rocky Mount got hit with the 2nd EF3 tornado of the year!

 

Carolina's have had a rough year weather wise.

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, strato said:

Thanks. I guess I have some reading to do I don’t have any local knowledge about previous water events. 

1916 was legendary. Entire communities got erased from the face of the Earth. Small streams that I trout fish in that are entirely wadeable rarely getting your belt line wet were nearing the 100' mark. One hurricane came through and stalled and dumped a ton of water. Then a week later another hurricane came through and it was just unimaginable.

1940 was the flood I was always told about by my great grandparents. They would've been mid-20s at the time. The whole "bottom" was underwater. "The bottom" being the Catawba valley through Morganton proper. This was basically a 1940s level event for us. Back then all those areas were agriculture fields. All the river bottoms were. It was the only flat land around, it was fertile from the routine flooding, and people knew they had a tendency to flood. These days it's all commercial and retail.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I just seen a video on YT of Asheville and most of the comments were the place looks Apocalyptic. I visit Asheville once a year and that place looks unrecognizable. 

 

Also Rocky Mount got hit with the 2nd EF3 tornado of the year!

 

Carolina's have had a rough year weather wise.

 

 

Asheville got hit HARD but at least they'll get plenty of aid. 90% of aid efforts will probably focus on Asheville because it's the largest population center a well as being where the money and power in WNC are centered.

I feel for the small isolated mountain communities. They're fuged. Nobody is gonna care. They never did.

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

I feel for the small isolated mountain communities. They're fuged. Nobody is gonna care. They never did.

Crazy you say this I also so this in the comments. Basically said some of the mountain towns are basically cut off they don't even have clean water for goodness sake. It's like they are cut off from the real world.

 

That sucks hopefully people can recover.

[Aussie Tank]

41 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Everyone knew it was going to be bad. I think a lot of people are always going to assume it won't be THAT bad. I knew it wasn't going to be 1916 in terms of water levels bad but I didn't expect it to be this bad myself. I was expecting 2004ish. We got more like 1940ish. It got really bad really fast toward the tail end. Had it not stopped when it did it was gonna get apocalyptic pretty quick. If these new storms forming come through here it's gonna get apocalyptic.

Big rain is an eye opener in 2008 we had a low stall over us and drop 600 ml in 6 hours and Cylcone Debbie stalled over us a few years back dropping 1.2 m over 2 days we lost all services for 2 weeks with that bastard 

[jayboogieman]

37 minutes ago, strato said:

I think in the future the people who lived and paid little mind, don’t do that again. 

Don't bet on it. Just look at how people keep rebuilding on the coast as proof.

[jayboogieman]

30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

1916 was legendary. Entire communities got erased from the face of the Earth. Small streams that I trout fish in that are entirely wadeable rarely getting your belt line wet were nearing the 100' mark. One hurricane came through and stalled and dumped a ton of water. Then a week later another hurricane came through and it was just unimaginable.

1940 was the flood I was always told about by my great grandparents. They would've been mid-20s at the time. The whole "bottom" was underwater. "The bottom" being the Catawba valley through Morganton proper. This was basically a 1940s level event for us. Back then all those areas were agriculture fields. All the river bottoms were. It was the only flat land around, it was fertile from the routine flooding, and people knew they had a tendency to flood. These days it's all commercial and retail.

There's another system that they think is forming in the exact same area Helene did. I hope it doesn't, but history could repeat itself.

[LinvilleGorge]

39 minutes ago, strato said:

Thanks. I guess I have some reading to do I don’t have any local knowledge about previous water events. 
 

PS I think in the future the people who lived and paid little mind, don’t do that again. 
 

For years and years I have had to prepare for hurricanes that were less than predicted mostly because they missed us.
You can’t afford to ignore the threat. 

People take pride in rebuilding after disasters. Even in obvious flood zones. They rebuild on the coast after every hurricane. They rebuild on the Rockies after every wildfire. They rebuild along the fault lines after every earthquake.

People shouldn't be building in flood plains but they do and they will.

[Basbear]

In the past few days our great goverment has gave away billions and more millions to taiwan, israel, ukraine.......... while TN, NC, GA, VI, SC are in dead waters?? Just pisses me off to no end. Theres over 1,000 missing in ashville last I heard. Trucks being turned away and tires cut by crazy people. My uncle just came up from SC and borrowed my generator, cords, and gas can. He had one but had to return it and said it would be months before they got power. 

Leadership is fuging this all up. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

In the past few days our great goverment has gave away billions and more millions to taiwan, israel, ukraine.......... while TN, NC, GA, VI, SC are in dead waters?? Just pisses me off to no end. Theres over 1,000 missing in ashville last I heard. Trucks being turned away and tires cut by crazy people. My uncle just came up from SC and borrowed my generator, cords, and gas can. He had one but had to return it and said it would be months before they got power. 

Leadership is fuging this all up. 

War profiteering always takes precedent over everything else. That's the one thing DC can always agree on.