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Dan Graziano: Panthers will trade Diontae Johnson


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37 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Actually Maryland is pretty nice. Hell the entire DMV is pretty nice. Sure they have the rough spots, but every state does. My drivers make a lot of money in the DMV area. Basically my 2nd home at this point lol

Yeah. A lot of Baltimore people, it is where they go if they can. 

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35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hell naw. My wife is from the eastern shore. Gun to my head I guess I could do Frederick but that's about it for me.

Grew up in Frederick, MD.  Lived in Charlotte most of my life.

Currently working in Frederick MD.

Frederick suuuuuuuuucks.

Charlotte times 100,000 - not comparable.

Maryland sucks as a whole compared to VA and NC and even SC.

Annapolis is the only city I like in MD.

But it’s far better than WV and PA.

NC for the win.

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14 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Are you cool with our starting WR's XL and Mingo?

 

Mingo as the #2 seems crazy to think about, but that would be a reality lol

Would we end up having Legette get most plays designed for him, or would we go back to Thielen being 1? 

Thinking Legette would get brutalized but if he has the right makeup he can use that as he develops. 

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3 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Grew up in Frederick, MD.  Lived in Charlotte most of my life.

Currently working in Frederick MD.

Frederick suuuuuuuuucks.

Charlotte times 100,000 - not comparable.

Maryland sucks as a whole compared to VA and NC and even SC.

Annapolis is the only city I like in MD.

But it’s far better than WV and PA.

NC for the win.

Oh, I'd much prefer to be in WNC.

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7 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Grew up in Frederick, MD.  Lived in Charlotte most of my life.

Currently working in Frederick MD.

Frederick suuuuuuuuucks.

Charlotte times 100,000 - not comparable.

Maryland sucks as a whole compared to VA and NC and even SC.

Annapolis is the only city I like in MD.

But it’s far better than WV and PA.

NC for the win.

Raleigh over anything in NC.

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5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Be careful in Baltimore. I've seen multiple people get robbed in broad daylight. Don't leave your doors unlocked they will take anything from your car. 

Don't worry about me even showing up in Baltimore or DelMarVa 😉

I attended the '66 World Series games three and four and if you ever want a culture shock, I still have the WS program from one of those games. Truly a culture shock even in the '90s. 

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2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Be careful in Baltimore. I've seen multiple people get robbed in broad daylight. Don't leave your doors unlocked they will take anything from your car. 

If you’re at a stop light in Baltimore and someone starts washing your windshield…

…peel the F out.  You’re about to get carjacked.

Squeejees are literally illegal in public places in B-More. Squejee Gangs, look it up.

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4 hours ago, CmC2k said:

Fitterer would've just let him walk at the end of the year for nothing. At least Dan and Brandt Tilis are trying to make the most of the situation. 

We’d get a compensatory pick if we let him walk. Maybe even a 3rd rounder.

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Off-season:  Surround Bryce with all the OL talent, draft WR, draft RB, draft TE and he can excel. He’s our guy.

Two weeks in, J/K bench him…Andy is our dude, not about BY.  Next day let’s trade BY.  J/K start him, there’s an injury. He’s our dude. Trade our top WR and anyone else, this is the plan.

#leadership

#ThePlan

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1 minute ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Off-season:  Surround Bryce with all the OL talent, draft WR, draft RB, draft TE and he can excel. He’s our guy.

Two weeks in, J/K bench him…Andy is our dude, not about BY.  Next day let’s trade BY.  J/K start him, there’s an injury. He’s our dude. Trade our top WR and anyone else, this is the plan.

#leadership

#ThePlan

#TheTepperWay

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