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Canales still not sold on Bryce?

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On 11/14/2024 at 1:19 PM, strato said:

He is better now on the short drops which is why they are being called I think - because they limit him to the 1 2 3 plant ball is out - no time to think.  Thanks about as far as it has gotten. And you are right they are not really right. But at least they aren’t that really wrong crap he does when left to take a deeper drop. 
 

Some of those 10 and 15 yard throws are pretty good, I think that is his limit though. Slightly better velocity when the form is correct. But he is bumping up against that ceiling already, there isn’t much more to see I don’t think. 
 

Imagine drafting the most 'pro ready' QB and having to rebuild his footwork from the ground up. 

I'm amazed Fitterer is employed in the NFL. Genuinely amazed.

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I don't think a month goes by that I don't stop for a second and feel hatred for Fitt. Brought trashed QBs here, kept a bad roster 24/7, passed on 2 first round picks and a second round pick for Burns, traded a generational RB, and spent the farm on a runty QB who has bad mechanics and a noodle arm. And I'm not even listing everything he screwed up. And I said he was screwing up at the time, not hindsight 20/20. He was AWFUL.

Now look what we have to show for it. A bottom 3 team and a QB who only looks good against teams that are somehow worse than us. I could walk away from this franchise for the next two seasons and I wouldn't miss anything notable or worthwhile.

We had Fitt lovers on this board praising him, but I'm not going to call those fans out. It's water under the bridge now. It's over. Aim for a turnaround 2026 once the roster is rebuilt. 

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