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All the concerns I had about Caleb Williams' playing style are showing up. Holds the ball too long, too quick to bail on the pocket and try to create a scramble drill, too focused on the hero play. I wasn't sold on him as an NFL prospect because you had to view him as a complete rebuild project. You're drafting the raw talent and now you have to re-teach him how to play QB as an NFL QB because this isn't college anymore. Everyone wanted to compare him to Mahomes but the difference is that Mahomes can make all the easy routine plays look easy and routine and only breaks out the highlight reel stuff when necessary. Caleb wants to skip all the easy and routine stuff and just go straight to highlight reel stuff every snap and that can't work in the NFL.

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26 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

If my math is correct, as of right now, Caleb has just matched one of Young's rookie stats... 62 sacks. Safe to say he's going to beat that. David Carr's record of 76 sacks may just be out of reach, however.

A lot of them are on Caleb though. This Bears OL isn't good and when you pair that with a QB who loves to hold the ball and try to scramble around to buy time well, this is what you get.

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5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yes, which is what everyone does every draft. As I stated, this draft appears to be a pretty big QB stinker.

Remember the notoriously poor class prediction on the 2022 QB class? Well as it stands only one of the QB's drafted(Mr. Irrelevant, Brock Purdy) is likely to see a second contract with his draft team. Literally every other QB drafted is on another team and a backup just two years later.

This draft isn't that far off, aside from perhaps Sanders and Ward.

Irt my original comment, I wasn't necessarily saying that they had to do it this year.  Just that they need to draft someone to take Wilson's place eventually.  And it would be great to have someone sit for a year or two while wilson is still able to play.

But my point about the draft is, is it a stinker?  Its really impossible to tell.  To often, the great qb classes (2021) turn out to be not great, while the lesser hyped classes are better than advertised.  

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