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Free Agency: QB Musical Chairs

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50 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Ward and Sanders are really mid first to mid second round guys in a stronger class.

 

And I translate that to a group of QBs If you eliminate the top 15 picks, that have a pretty low success rate as day 1 starters.  That is why, in my view, these bridge QBs are probably going to go to teams that also draft a QB. If you have to sign a veteran mentor and develop your QB for a year, why not just wait a year and draft some pieces to go around the eventual QB?  I think I'd rather have a Geno Smith and Will Howard than Shedeur Sanders under center day 1.

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And I translate that to a group of QBs If you eliminate the top 15 picks, that have a pretty low success rate as day 1 starters.  That is why, in my view, these bridge QBs are probably going to go to teams that also draft a QB. If you have to sign a veteran mentor and develop your QB for a year, why not just wait a year and draft some pieces to go around the eventual QB?  I think I'd rather have a Geno Smith and Will Howard than Shedeur Sanders under center day 1.

I think that's possible but the odds of any of those QB's outside Ward/Sanders being more than backups is very, very low IMO.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that's possible but the odds of any of those QB's outside Ward/Sanders being more than backups is very, very low IMO.

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We shall see, but this QB group is bad.  When the #1 overall pick has nothing at QB and they are in trade talks, that tells you something.  In 2034, I will look back at the QB group and I am willing to bet that either all of them busted or the most successful was not Ward or Sanders.  Not to say that I would not gamble on Ward because I am wrong about QBs a lot, but my common sense tells me that if I am going to gamble on a QB this year, do it in round 2 and beyond. 

I am just looking forward to free agency and the dust that settles afterwards.  Then we will have a better idea--but I think there are teams that like Ewers, Howard, Dart, and maybe a few others--not sure about Milroe---but the odds are against them ever starting.  Of course, you have your Bradys, Purdys. Wilsons, Cousins, etc. and I have a hunch that one in that "second tier" group.  A lot of these guys are transfers in the new portal turnstiles--and I know how confusing it is for a QB to learn a new system with new personnel.  I watch for the moment the light seems to have come on and judge from that point.

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We shall see, but this QB group is bad.  When the #1 overall pick has nothing at QB and they are in trade talks, that tells you something.  In 2034, I will look back at the QB group and I am willing to bet that either all of them busted or the most successful was not Ward or Sanders.  Not to say that I would not gamble on Ward because I am wrong about QBs a lot, but my common sense tells me that if I am going to gamble on a QB this year, do it in round 2 and beyond. 

I am just looking forward to free agency and the dust that settles afterwards.  Then we will have a better idea--but I think there are teams that like Ewers, Howard, Dart, and maybe a few others--not sure about Milroe---but the odds are against them ever starting.  Of course, you have your Bradys, Purdys. Wilsons, Cousins, etc. and I have a hunch that one in that "second tier" group.  A lot of these guys are transfers in the new portal turnstiles--and I know how confusing it is for a QB to learn a new system with new personnel.  I watch for the moment the light seems to have come on and judge from that point.

I think Sanders has a very good shot at being a middle of the pack or slightly above NFL starter for a long time. Ward it just depends on what end of the gunslinger scale he falls on. Is he on the Favre/Winston end or the Mayfield/Stafford end?

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21 minutes ago, Basbear said:

So no one here predicted Geno being traded to Raiders?!??!?

 

 

YOU BUNCH OF FRAUDS!!!11!!!!

I don’t even remember him being traded as recent speculation by media outlets. I think that was fairly surprising.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I don’t even remember him being traded as recent speculation by media outlets. I think that was fairly surprising.

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Im just in here busting balls is all. No one across the league thought geno would be traded and not to the raiders. 

All I read was Seattle was offering 35-40 per in a new deal and geno didn't agree and asked to be traded right after. Within a couple days he was traded to LV before it leaked he was on the block. 

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Im just in here busting balls is all. No one across the league thought geno would be traded and not to the raiders. 

All I read was Seattle was offering 35-40 per in a new deal and geno didn't agree and asked to be traded right after. Within a couple days he was traded to LV before it leaked he was on the block. 

I mean, I guess in fairness to Geno I would be pissed about being valued less than Prescott, Love, Lawrence, Tua, Goff, Murray, Watson and Cousins.

In fairness to Seattle, I don't think I would want to have a $45+ mil Smith on my roster.

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I mean, I guess in fairness to Geno I would be pissed about being valued less than Prescott, Love, Lawrence, Tua, Goff, Murray, Watson and Cousins.

In fairness to Seattle, I don't think I would want to have a $45+ mil Smith on my roster.

 

Yes it seems Geno took it as they didn't value him and wanted out. For me, he is very hard to place a value on. I still remember he had great run in either 22 or 23, he was top 3 in MVP voting and its mid season. He dropped to earth some, but still he looked way better than 2021 Wilson . 

 

NGL, before BY got in forward gear, I was thinking about Geno to Panthers in some way....this was before Dave came abroad. 

 

I know there is talk about Sam Darnold, Ive also heard they love Sam hollwitzer. 

 

I also heard Seattle wanted to move on from Geno and Pete stood by him, they wanted a full rebuild deal. Then the new builder HC got there and couldn't move Geno, when into the season and "fell" back into love with Geno........mid-QB pay love it seems. It's odd how its playing out. 

They may be in the market for a trade up in order to draft Sanders, rumor mill is out of control in south Alaska.... 

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On 3/8/2025 at 4:20 PM, Basbear said:

So no one here predicted Geno being traded to Raiders?!??!?

 

 

YOU BUNCH OF FRAUDS!!!11!!!!

I promise---I nearly predicted it, (kicking myself) but I decided to keep it with the free agents.  I have Pete Carroll taking Wilson, but I know they did not see eye to eye at the end, but I didn't make the call.  I have learned that if you make a lot of predictions you are right a lot more than if you dont!

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