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why is Bill Cowher the answer to our problems?


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we have no idea what he can do. ok he won a super bowl. well fox was a field goal away. say we fire fox and get cowher, what if he stinks up the place?

i just dont understand all the cheerleading for this to happen. everyone is all on cowhers jock like he is parcells or something. just because he is "retired" and in the area does not make him the answers to our problems.

i agree that changes need to be made but this one is a head scratcher.

with the news of peppers wanting out, makes me wonder about our defensive schemes. is it fox? is it turgovac? both? why are players wanting out of our system? i can only come up with "too conservative". i am slow to hang fox on this one. he has been with the team 7-8 years and has had us in the playoffs 3 times. if changes need to be made start at defensive cord.

we have problems, but at least we aint the lions! yeah it hurt to lose like that in the playoffs, but hell i was a houston fan in 93. they lost a 32 point lead in the 3rd quarter. we were a long way from that.

we still have a good offense, yes i am sticking with jake. tighten up the defense and who knows. the defense is what killed our team late in the season, not offense. 6 turnovers be damned. he was trying way to hard to cover our defenses mistakes. it caught up with him. he also threw 211 yds in the 4th quarter of the super bowl.

lets be rational about our choices.

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no one is upset about the results.

everyone is upset about the way they happened.

even when Cowher wasn't winning super bowls, his teams still played hard, and his defenses played with an intensity this team hasn't seen since 2004.

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no one is upset about the results.

everyone is upset about the way they happened.

even when Cowher wasn't winning super bowls, his teams still played hard, and his defenses played with an intensity this team hasn't seen since 2004.

where did it go? mid season they were top ten defense. the bye seemed to have killed it. just odd to see the defense deflate like that. its not like the teams was on a huge losing streak.

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where did it go? mid season they were top ten defense. the bye seemed to have killed it. just odd to see the defense deflate like that. its not like the teams was on a huge losing streak.

if i could specifically point to one thing I wouldn't need cream in my coffee.

I'd imagine it had a lot to do with injuries to Darwin Walker (DT Depth), the aging of Ken Lucas, an uncreative scheme that offenses figured out, and the refusal to adjust it for the opponent, as well as players tuning out Fox.

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no one is upset about the results.

everyone is upset about the way they happened.

even when Cowher wasn't winning super bowls, his teams still played hard, and his defenses played with an intensity this team hasn't seen since 2004.

Rod Marinelli had his players playing hard almost every game this year.

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For about 5 years straight the Steelers were losing OC/DC coordinators to other teams, even the Panthers got one (Capers) If some of those coordinators had stayed in place Cowher would have won more Superbowls. He was/is a consistent winner and that's why people want him.

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we'll for one

You can always guarantee that a Cowher team will play it's heart out, if a player isn't doing that, they're not going to be a member of the team for long.

He preaches defense first and running the ball, so does fox but our defense hasn't been doing so well the last two years. Cowher's defenses were typically very aggressive, something were not.

If that was a cowher team against the cards you can guarantee that we would've ran the ball down the cards throats instead of giving up on it.

I'm not saying it would be a major change, but at least you wouldn't see our team playing without heart in a big game. Like someone said earlier it's exciting thinking about us getting a big name coach and the fact of change after Fox and it is what it is attitude.

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if i could specifically point to one thing I wouldn't need cream in my coffee.

I'd imagine it had a lot to do with injuries to Darwin Walker (DT Depth), the aging of Ken Lucas, an uncreative scheme that offenses figured out, and the refusal to adjust it for the opponent, as well as players tuning out Fox.

well i do have to say that not double teaming fitzgerald was a massive mistake, and his reply was that we haven't done it all year and we weren't gonna change. its the frickin playoffs and he is torching us.

horrible.

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fox got soft.

the chin gets the most out of his players. he pushes them and he gets respected for it.

fox is not the solution if he can't get his team to win consistently. cowher has shown that he can make that happen.

if fox can't make it happen next year, cowher can.

benefit of him is he is local now and wants to be here in the carolinas. there are very few that can dismiss the idea that he will be top of the list when/if fox leaves the panthers.

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Our defense is no longer dominant. Pep was never the fiercest. Steve Smiths brain in Peps body, he would be that great player he so called "needs to go elsewhere to become".

We haven't been dominant since Del Rio's days. Pep has probably been quietly waiting for Turg to go so we could get a real DC and it never happened.

The D became softer and softer with less and less imagination. We have the pieces (had) to be a top 5 defense but lack proper direction.

Just as Davidson spiced up the offense we need a new DC for the D to help balance out Fox's conservatism.

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