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Fiz's 7 point plan


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1. Sign a new coach (see Mr. Scot's thread for more info)

My top two targets for the Panthers are Frazier and Harbaugh. Frazier has excelled in with his 4-3 in Minnesota and the Panthers have one of the more talented defenses in the league (stats back this up). The players are there, but the offense on the other side of the ball is not. I doubt that Frazier will end the year as an assistant, however, and is probably the next Vikings coach.

Harbaugh played for Carolina and has former Panthers coaches on his staff. He might want to stay in Stanford for another year (if luck does but lol) or he might want to wait for a better job. The fact of the matter is the Panthers offense still has an offensive line, will have at least Jonathan Stewart next year, and still has Steve Smith. The team doesn't exactly need a total rebuilding.

2. Draft a QB

Luck or Newton, whomever is there. I'd prefer Luck. The Panthers have ignored this for too long and it's time to bite the bullet and just do that. Assuming of course they don't make a play for Peyton Manning.

3. Sign a Veteran QB

Just sign Hasselbeck, or Pennington, or poo bring back Kerry Collins. They need a veteran presence to mentor a new QB. Just go into the season with a situation better than what it was this season.

4. Let Moore walk, get rid of Clausen

Moore was signed to a one year tender. He's done with this team and serves no use as a backup. Let him sit on a bench in another town. Clausen is worthless and they need to trade him while they can still get a 7th for him.

5. Sign a free agent wide receiver

There is no shortage of them. Let Gettis/Lafell have a year to develop behind a proper wide receiver corps. I'd prefer they sign a good guy that wants to teach youngsters since obviously Steve Smith has no interest in doing that but I'm not picky.

6. Depth

I've been harping on this for a while but the Panthers' biggest problem this year is who they DIDN'T bring in, namely everyone. The team needs veterans somewhere. Let's get some offensive line depth, WR depth, QB depth, defensive line depth, and we'll be good to go.

7. Re-sign the core

Kalil, Beason, Davis, and hell even Anderson after this year. Let DeAngelo walk if he wants. This team isn't going to get better by spending money on luxuries.

boom team fixed

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I like it except:

Cowher/Harbaugh>Frazier/Harbaugh as potential candidates.

JR may not cooperate and open the banks for Free Agent signings.

Resign the core, but DWill is the core. We gotta have him. Thomas Davis gets nothing more than a one year flyer or heavily laden performance based contract.

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it has to be done. we don't have a choice.

I agree. But we must fire Hurney first. No way in hell I trust his QB evaluation of QBs because he will not draft a quality QB. Or WRs. He's done well in almost every other position. But he's clueless when it comes to QBs and WRs.

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Go after Manning (not going to happen but a guy can dream right?), Vick, and McNabb. If we can't get any of them sign a veteran qb anyway just for the presence. If we can't get any of them draft Luck or best qb available.

If qb has been obtained by draft day, we need a pass-rushing DT in a bad way. We need someone who can collapse the pocket.

Sign veteran o-linemen and one decent veteran wide-out. Hey Vincent Jackson might be available....up wrong thread

Finally although it really pains me to say this. Franchise D-Will and see what we can get for him. I'm sorry but Sutton looked just as good out there today as D-Will has all year. I love Deangelo and want nothing more than him to retire a Panther, but we all knew Double Trouble would have to end someday right???

nah Jerry will probably just go for youth movement two next year. If it didn't work the first time try try again!

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I like it except:

Cowher/Harbaugh>Frazier/Harbaugh as potential candidates.

JR may not cooperate and open the banks for Free Agent signings.

Resign the core, but DWill is the core. We gotta have him. Thomas Davis gets nothing more than a one year flyer or heavily laden performance based contract.

I think Cowher will just be Fox II. Once we have a CBA Richardson will open up the checkbook again.

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If we get a new CBA Jerry will hand the new crew a blank check. We should see an extra 3rd for Pep so that'll help too.

I'm not sold on Luck and don't trust Newton's arm enough to take him in the top 5. We have to address both our lines and we're only 1 or 2 players away from that happening.

If we can get a true LT in the draft, kick Gross back over to RT, Otah inside (when healthy) and we've got a good line again.

If we can get a disruptive DT, that will make our edge rushers effective and our defense very good. If we can get a good pass rushing DE too, our D will be elite.

We'll probably need to get a CB to replace Marshall too.

Polian's not letting Pey Pey leave town, but that would be awesome.

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