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Justify why Cam Newton isn't worth #1 overall?

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panthers55 Grand Master

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that is bull....when i say win right now im not saying the superbowl in 2012, im talking about a Sam Bradford type year finishing around .500

And who says that Newton can't help us win 6 or 7 games. What is bull is deciding that you know how Newton would do in the NFL or that he would struggle more than a Mallett or Locker. All you have to go on is college success and right now Newton is playing for the national championship not Locker. I saw Mallett the other night and wasn't impressed.

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with our D and running game you cant tell me there is not a qb in the draft that cant come in here and take us to around .500, i do know that there is no way in hell cam newton could do that for us

New coach, New Defense, New offense, what are you not getting here. Add to the fact the CBA could hinder coaching time and yep we are 6 win team.

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Who are the fans here saying Cam is going to come in and we're going to be winners right away? I'm expecting a losing season with or without Cam. What I want ( I think we all want this) is a starting QB who is much better than Clausen and Moore. I'd love a big time FA QB to come in and lead this team. Is JR going to spend the money to buy one? I can't imagine anyone here thinks that he will. Do you want a cheap FA QB? I hope not. At this point I think our most realistic possibility is that we draft the best QB #1. If not, you have the combination of JR being cheap, and Hurney dumpster diving for a veteran QB. Cam looks great, but it's a huge gamble to select him. We're in the sh!tty position where we have to gamble. Don't want Cam? Great. Want Pickles? We've gotta find a starting QB or we're looking at something like 0-16 for 2011.

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There is more than athletic ability to being a QB, there is the mental aspect, the ability to handle pressure, not just of a game but of a franchise, the mental aspect can doom QBs, the NFL is littered with them. Picking a QB who can pass muster in the NFL is no easy matter.

From where I sit, Newton is not a top half of the draft QB, he has more questions than answers, he exist in a run heavy offense where he has to read the actions of one defensive player to decide whether to keep or pitch the ball. Auburn has a very very good offensive system that Newton runs superbly. But last I looked that type of offense doesn't fly in the NFL. Could Cam be successful, yes, is he a gamble at #1 overall, heck yes, HUGE gamble. And judging a college QB purely on stats is lunacy and will guarantee to fail when drafting a QB more times than not.

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And who says that Newton can't help us win 6 or 7 games. What is bull is deciding that you know how Newton would do in the NFL or that he would struggle more than a Mallett or Locker. All you have to go on is college success and right now Newton is playing for the national championship not Locker. I saw Mallett the other night and wasn't impressed.

your right neither of us know who will do what in the nfl, but i do know both mallett and locker are in pro systems and cam is in a spread system and is a run first qb

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Quarterbacks who are drafted are all projects. The question is not if they will struggle but for how long. Anyone thinking that we will draft a guy and he will help us win right away doesn't understand football very well. Most guys even Peyton Manning struggled his first season.

yep even luck would be project whether people want to acknowledge this or not. gabbert & newton are next IMO in terms of potential . if neither does anything for our FO then we might have to draft for need or trade down & pick up more picks

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your right neither of us know who will do what in the nfl, but i do know both mallett and locker are in pro systems and cam is in a spread system and is a run first qb

Locker suffers from a poor arm and accuracy and Mallett suffers from poor accuracy and Footwork. Both are major issuers. They are what you call projects.

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your right neither of us know who will do what in the nfl, but i do know both mallett and locker are in pro systems and cam is in a spread system and is a run first qb

First off he doesn't run more than he throws so that is wrong right off the bat. Secondly he threw as many TDs as Luck did this year. Plus he ran for another 20. Third while there is some learning curve from the spread, Bradford who you noted ran a spread offense as well. What Newton has is the ability to be elusive and keep plays alive. Something that with our offensive line is extremely important. Also note he plaed against better cometition and more ranked teams than any other quarterback this year.

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And who says that Newton can't help us win 6 or 7 games. What is bull is deciding that you know how Newton would do in the NFL or that he would struggle more than a Mallett or Locker. All you have to go on is college success and right now Newton is playing for the national championship not Locker. I saw Mallett the other night and wasn't impressed.

Mallett is sack waiting to happen in the pocket & his footwork is sloppy, Locker takes alot of chances with the ball, so neither are options IMO. it's either Gabbert,Newton,BPA, or trade down

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Mallett is sack waiting to happen in the pocket & his footwork is sloppy, Locker takes alot of chances with the ball, so neither are options IMO. it's either Gabbert,Newton,BPA, or trade down

Dont forget about Nick Fairley. Seems to be a good DT if you ask me. Dont know if he is BPA though. AJ Green is higher rated.

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Dont forget about Nick Fairley. Seems to be a good DT if you ask me. Dont know if he is BPA though. AJ Green is higher rated.

If Clausen is our QB for next season, then you go with Fairley imo. Why draft AJ Green when he won't touch the ball more than 5 yards from the los?

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