This guy thinks we go Defense first Pick

[Cat'sGrowl]

Offense.

One or two Free Agent acquisitions on the defensive side of the ball and we'll have an all around great defensive unit.

Which all of that will mean nothing if we don't improve the offense..

[Cyberjag]

Under Hurney, we've taken four defensive players in the first round and four offensive players.

For what it's worth...

[panthers55]

...and I'm hoping Fairley keeps his # 90 when he gets here so I can have the nameplate swapped out on my Peppers jersey by the Panthers team store for $40.

That would be a great way to recycle all those now useless Peppers jerseys. I was hoping last year Hardy would change his number to 90 for the same reason. LOL

[Cat'sGrowl]

Offense under Hurney..

[Cat'sGrowl]

Defense under Hurney

[Davidson Deac II]

Under Hurney, we've taken four defensive players in the first round and four offensive players.

For what it's worth...

But not a single WR or QB among them. Fwiw, I wouldn't mind seeing us take AJ Green, if he really is all that good.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Is that really everybody?

I feel like I'm missing some people.

Either way, that's an incredible list of players..

[Happy Panther]

I don't get going defense because the defense wasn't that bad last year.

By what measure :confused:

[Ricky Spanish]

By what measure :confused:

the fact that they were on the field twice as long as the offense and didn't allow 50 points to be scored every game.

[Happy Panther]

the fact that they were on the field twice as long as the offense and didn't allow 50 points to be scored every game.

Defense was on the field around 5 minutes longer per game

we gave up a hell of alot of points, were terrible against the run, couldn't sack anyone (except Johnson)

Couple of bright spots but otherwise mediocre at best

[Cat'sGrowl]

Defense was on the field around 5 minutes longer per game

we gave up a hell of alot of points, were terrible against the run, couldn't sack anyone (except Johnson)

Couple of bright spots but otherwise mediocre at best

I'd like for you to show me something thats says you didn't just make all that up.

The defense spent an enormous amount of time on the field week in and week out and finished the season 18th overall (we were 32nd in total offense fyi).

Not bad for a young unit who had to carry the team week in and week out.

[Ricky Spanish]

I'd like for you to show me something thats says you didn't just make all that up.

The defense spent an enormous amount of time on the field week in and week out and finished the season 18th overall (we were 32nd in total offense fyi).

Not bad for a young unit who had to carry the team week in and week out.

also they gave up a lot of points because the opposing offense's starting field position was always close to the 50 each drive because we were constantly punting from within our own 20.

[Happy Panther]

I'd like for you to show me something thats says you didn't just make all that up.

My normal response is go google it yourself asswipe. But since I'm in a good mood.

1) Offense on the field for 27:24 per game. Not good but hardly double.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-time-of-possession-net-of-ot

2) Points allowed = 408 - 7th worst in points allowed. 10th worst in ypg. 2nd worst in TDs allowed rushing

http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&sort=OVERALL_PTS_AGAINST&order=desc&colSel=7

2b) However you can correct for time on the field by looking at things like 1st down percentage: 6th worst

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=null&archive=false&seasonType=REG&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&d-447263-s=RUSHING_FIRST_DOWN_PERCENTAGE&d-447263-n=1&season=2010&qualified=true&Submit=Go&tabSeq=2&role=OPP&d-447263-p=1

3) Sacks: Charles Johnson with a great year. Next best around 100th with 3.5 sacks. We were 20th overall. If the defense is on the field so much it should be higher in sacks and tackles

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/sacks/qualified/false/count/81

4) 23rd is rushing defense

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&season=2010&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Again some bright spots. Overall well below average.

[Cat'sGrowl]

My normal response is go google it yourself asswipe. But since I'm in a good mood.

1) Offense on the field for 27:24 per game. Not good but hardly double.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-time-of-possession-net-of-ot

2) Points allowed = 408 - 7th worst in points allowed. 10th worst in ypg. 2nd worst in TDs allowed rushing

http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&sort=OVERALL_PTS_AGAINST&order=desc&colSel=7

2b) However you can correct for time on the field by looking at things like 1st down percentage: 6th worst

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=null&archive=false&seasonType=REG&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&d-447263-s=RUSHING_FIRST_DOWN_PERCENTAGE&d-447263-n=1&season=2010&qualified=true&Submit=Go&tabSeq=2&role=OPP&d-447263-p=1

3) Sacks: Charles Johnson with a great year. Next best around 100th with 3.5 sacks. We were 20th overall. If the defense is on the field so much it should be higher in sacks and tackles

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/sacks/qualified/false/count/81

4) 23rd is rushing defense

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&season=2010&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Again some bright spots. Overall well below average.

Good research, but I was mainly referring to the comment about time on the field.

We were 30th in the ToP ratio, as that chart stated.

That builds up and has a tremendous impact on the performance of the defense,especially when the opposing offense spends the entire 2nd half running out the clock..