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This Seasons Injuries...

rmoneyg35

By rmoneyg35,
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#1 Coaching

Fox had always been able to overcome injuries. This year with a young team and no decent back ups hurt the team. Then you get what we got...crap. Plus I don't think Fox really gave a damn.

Time out, when the hell has fox EVER overcome injuries on his roster? one of his biggest problems was that if one of his starters wasn't healthy, his schemes went to poo because he couldn't adapt his gameplan at all.

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Can't remember the year. It was an 8-8 year I know that. we were like 2-7 injuries all over the roster and we got back to 8-8. And I'm sure there was another year injuries and bad record and he got it back to .500 or just under. So I know that is not a playoff run, but he was able to get wins, unlike this past year. And that had to do more with personnel and coaching than injuries.

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Can't remember the year. It was an 8-8 year I know that. we were like 2-7 injuries all over the roster and we got back to 8-8. And I'm sure there was another year injuries and bad record and he got it back to .500 or just under. So I know that is not a playoff run, but he was able to get wins, unlike this past year. And that had to do more with personnel and coaching than injuries.

you're talking about 2004.. 17 starters were injured and the team battled back to end 7-9..

that was the only year you can hang a hat on Fox's coaching..

'06 we had minimal injuries and the top team in the league with one hell of a DLine and we ended up looking like poo..

'05 is THE PERFECT EXAMPLE, imo, of Fox's inability to overcome injuries.. and the main reason wasn't coaching, it was his stubborness to ignore key positions for so long, and ended up being an issue of a lack of depth at KEY positions.. We went to the NFC championship on our 4th string RB. Seattle put 3 DB's on Smitty and stacked the box against our running game. That means Drew Carter and a 3rd WR was 1 on 1 most of the game.. neither of them could get open to help our team out and that was Fox being stubborn to not find legit WRs.. he learned that lesson though and brought in Keyshawn, which was a big signing at the time, to me pointing that '05 taught him a lesson..

unfortunately, that lesson didn't fully get through to him when they dropped Keyshawn after drafting Jarrett.. 1st, the guy is a rookie. 2nd, you can never have too many WR threats.

'07 wasn't a horrible year injury wise, except it's hard to build week to week with a new QB in each of those weeks..

but '09, to me, was eye opening.. especially week 1 against the Eagles.. The Eagles were putting a LBer in aa DE and the DE in at LBer and stacked one side.. they did it over and over.. we wonder why our OLine couldn't block, well it had a lot to do with our coaches not adjusting to the situation. Sean McDermott sort of taught me a little watching him that day by doing this.. by overloading one side and different ways to do that.. Fox's coaching took a major hit that day and it all had to do with adjusting to what the defense was doing..

We maybe could've secure 1-2 more wins. That's it.

if you're referring to 2004, the year Jangler was pointing out.. in defense of that year, if we won 1 more game we would have made the playoffs.. I believe it was the last game we played the Saints and lost that kept us out..

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'05 is THE PERFECT EXAMPLE, imo, of Fox's inability to overcome injuries.. and the main reason wasn't coaching, it was his stubborness to ignore key positions for so long, and ended up being an issue of a lack of depth at KEY positions.. We went to the NFC championship on our 4th string RB. Seattle put 3 DB's on Smitty and stacked the box against our running game. That means Drew Carter and a 3rd WR was 1 on 1 most of the game.. neither of them could get open to help our team out and that was Fox being stubborn to not find legit WRs.. he learned that lesson though and brought in Keyshawn, which was a big signing at the time, to me pointing that '05 taught him a lesson..

How many "Too many men on the field" penalties did they have? That seems like a lot of players OR we have different definitions of "Stacking the box"

3 (Smitty's coverage)

1 (Carter)

By rule that only leaves 7 in the box. If we had a 3rd receiver that would only leave 6 in the box.

Someone is exaggerating.

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How many "Too many men on the field" penalties did they have? That seems like a lot of players OR we have different definitions of "Stacking the box"

3 (Smitty's coverage)

1 (Carter)

By rule that only leaves 7 in the box. If we had a 3rd receiver that would only leave 6 in the box.

Someone is exaggerating.

I could be exaggerating a bit.. ;)

from what I remember it felt a lot like their goal was to take Smitty out of the game and focused the rest of the defense (whether it be 6 or 7) to stop the run.. with our 4th RB being Jamal Robertson (IIRC), it didn't take much to shut down the run, which they did..

They dared us to run or pass it to Carter.. now if we had 3 WRs on the field or a TE released from blocking (lol, right, that happens often), then obviously they had to adjust..

my main point being their game plan was pretty simple.. Shut down Smitty and Shut down the run.. Dare Carter, whoever, to start making plays.. The latter didn't happen..

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