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How I Think the Draft Shakes Out...

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Both Mallett and Newton have character concerns... and concerns on the field too, but it is possible, especially after the combine and if they impress in interviews.

This is why I think both will fall. If Clausen can fall because of leadership these guys sure can. I think we make our first pick then try to trade back into the first round.

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This is why I think both will fall. If Clausen can fall because of leadership these guys sure can. I think we make our first pick then try to trade back into the first round.

ahh yeah, that is possible, I am just not sure the Panthers gamble on a quarterback with potential character issues... unless they fall pretty far. They took Clausen but i think many of his character issues were questions about how arrogant he was etc and not on the line of "well he did something vaguely criminal" lol. :(

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I could see us ether trading down with CLE or STL for there chance to draft Green. Then picking up Fairly, and then a shocker us trading back up to select a QB. That really would not shock me. I think if Newton or Mallett falls we will see them trade up and pick them.

Yes, let's draft another QB who falls far below initial projections, so we can learn the hard way next year why they fell. Again.

Fool me once...

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The first pick is worth 3000 trade points. The 16th pick is worth 1000. This year, however, I image the value of the first pick is lower. So, lets say 1500 is the difference. You need a second rounder in 2011 and a first in 2012.

I think Arizona and Cincinnati may move up to get a DE. We could get a second and a third (or a second and a second in 2012) to drop 5 spots and still get a quality player at a need postion

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Yes, let's draft another QB who falls far below initial projections, so we can learn the hard way next year why they fell. Again.

Fool me once...

Teams like Minnesota and Arizona passed on Clausen TWICE. They needed a QB as much as anyone.

This year, there will be 3 fallers that will be tempting. Gabbert should, unless a desperate team takes him. I will say he goes top 15. Cam Newton will go top 20, but he could drop into the second round. After than, Locker will drop like Clausen. Mallet will drop like Clausen. You might see a player like Ponder go before one of these names.

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This is why I think both will fall. If Clausen can fall because of leadership these guys sure can. I think we make our first pick then try to trade back into the first round.

Clausen had other concerns, but I get your point. I see Mallet, Newton, and Locker falling into the second round. Gabbert will get picked by a desperate team.

I think the panthers should take a QB late to develop. Lets say we draft Yates out of UNC in the seventh with a comp pick

Starter: Veteran FA

2nd teamer: Clausen

3rd teamer: Pike or Yates

PS: Pike or Yates

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