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What about Pike?

DaveThePanther2008

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Well we have had 4 qbs go into camp before ( i know i know new regime ) so i say even if we pick up a vet or draft one ( which i hope we don't) pike has a chance to stay on the roster.....if he can show something, but he's going to have to shine and not just look average. But yea maybe the new oc and the tbd qb coach can pull something out of him too. And i agree he has the right "stuff" to play but its just how it puts it together when he's given then shot.

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Stefan LeFors

Honestly, IMO, whether or not he makes the team will depend entirely on what we do with Matt Moore. We will bring in another vet no matter what. But, if Rivera decides to bring back MM as well, I don't see Pike making past training camp.

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Stefan LeFors

Honestly, IMO, whether or not he makes the team will depend entirely on what we do with Matt Moore. We will bring in another vet no matter what. But, if Rivera decides to bring back MM as well, I don't see Pike making past training camp.

Not even close. LeFors was a higher pick but not nearly the talent Pike has. I think Pike was a steal and if he can learn the 3 Drop 5 Drop and 7 Step Drops I think he has the tools to become an NFL caliber QB.

Time and Opportunity is what he needs the most.

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LeFors had a lot of potential as well. I don't know that you could say that one was more talented than the other, they were very different QBs. And I agree with you that given the time and opportunity, Pike could develop into a very good QB. I just don't know that it will happen with us.

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Not much has been said one way or another on this guy. Let's here your take on Pike. Was he a wasted pick? He has the size, arm strength and other intangibles. Now that he has had a year to learn to take snap from under center can he be considered a dark horse to stay with this team in 2011?

he has a noodle for an arm, and that's probably being generous.

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he has a noodle for an arm, and that's probably being generous.

You're right!!!! Just found this online.

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010tpike.php

Strengths:

Good height; can comfortably see over line

Very quick decision-maker

Great football intelligence

Nice touch on the football; clean spiral

Has an adequate sixth sense for pass rush

Takes what the defense gives him; doesn't force throws

Solid accuracy down the field

Absolutely outstanding timing; throws ball before receiver even gets into break

Good character

Weaknesses:

Lacks some bulk in his body frame

Extremely weak arm strength

Lacks agility and athleticism; can't evade a pass rush

Somewhat of a statue in the pocket

Floats deep ball a little too much

Not a very good passer on the run

Throws difficult routes - but with unimpressive velocity/talent

Highly limited skill set

Competitiveness hasn't been tested yet

Older than the average prospect (will be a 24-year-old rookie)

Summary: Pike projects strictly as a career backup in the NFL. He simply doesn't possess even an average arm to be a starter. Pike can be somewhat reliable since he makes great decisions and is highly intelligent, but he lacks a lot of talent, and you can't coach talent. I project Pike to come off the board between the third and fifth rounds.

Player Comparison: Todd Collins. Collins has a weak arm, but is an extremely smart quarterback and a reliable backup.

Maybe a decent QB coach can help with the arm strength... IDK

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"Clausen, ranked No. 4 overall on NFL Draft guru Mel Kiper's big board, is a pro-ready quarterback thanks to his experience in Charlie Weis' offense. Clausen already knows most of Carolina's playbook word-for-word, so he's fully capable of stepping in right away and posting a 2008 Matt Ryan-esque season if Moore can't pick up where he left off. "

I have a feeling that in three or four years, when we look back at the 2010 NFL Draft, we'll think that the Rams should have selected Jimmy Clausen No. 1 overall. I better believe that; I spent two days and 2,000 words writing a USA Today article just about that.

"Whether Clausen is better than Bradford is irrelevant here, however. Two things are relevant. First, the Panthers drafted a guy who should have been a top 10 pick at No. 48. And second, Carolina now has a franchise quarterback for the first time in 13 years. "

From the source quoted earlier in this conversation, Walter Football. Goes on to say that with Clausen that we now have a franchaise QB, etc.

So much for all the talk of Clausen being a rookie and not knowing anything. Just shows what the "experts" know about anything.

I believe Pike is much better as a back up QB than Clausen. Because of Fox's insistence in using Clausen, Pike is still almost an unknown quantity.

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