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Anyone else feel PP would be "safest" pick?

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You're getting overly angry over nothing at all. Once again you've completely missed my point. My previous post was that I never said corner was a safe position. It's just that DT's aren't safe either and hence when you put Fairley above PP for that reason, it's not a good reason. You seem to be quite talented at twisting my words, adding a little anger and making it into an 'argument'. I've tried to be reasonable with you, but it's obvious that you're not even trying to do the same. I'm done.

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You're getting overly angry over nothing at all. Once again you've completely missed my point. My previous post was that I never said corner was a safe position. It's just that DT's aren't safe either and hence when you put Fairley above PP for that reason, it's not a good reason. You seem to be quite talented at twisting my words, adding a little anger and making it into an 'argument'. I've tried to be reasonable with you, but it's obvious that you're not even trying to do the same. I'm done.

LOL, in other words: you challenged my opinion and I proved you wrong.

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Ugh typed poo out and clicked back, I'll just type this all again. This is my argument in a nutshell:

You: DT is a safer position than CB, so Fairley is a safer prospect than Peterson.

Me 1: DT is not a generally safe position, so your argument is false.

Me 2: Peterson is a better prospect than Fairley regardless of positions.

Notice I have NEVER said that CB is a better position, I made a NEGATIVE claim against your point in order to fight against your argument. I never made a positive case for corner.

You have taken what I posted and misread them time after time. I'll list them specifically, because anything less seems to go over your head.

Example 1: I wrote 'my point is never that CB is super safe, simply that DT was not'. This is just meant to be a paraphrase of 'Me 1'. You however, have taken the liberty to take this line beyond its intention, stating that you accused me of making a positive argument for CB, when I have not done anything of the sort. I was simply arguing on my first point.

Example 2: 'I'm not sure I'll put Fairley's intelligence up with Ngata for example'. You take to mean that Fairley is a complete retard. Read again. I'm saying he's not as smart as a Ngata, an example of a DT that transitioned well to the NFL, with a generally common trait among successful young DT's: being notably football smart. That doesn''t mean that Fairley is DUMB, that means he doesn't have a trait that makes the transition smooth.

Once again, you are really good at misunderstanding my point, it verbally insulting me for YOUR OWN mistake.

For the record, no I didn't note why PP is a better prospect yet, but that's because I was still arguing point 1. If you really want to know why I think he's a better prospect, he's a once in a decade athlete in the position and has great intangibles from understanding of the game, leadership, to motivation. Congratulations, you have made me lose my cool for mistakes you've made. I hope you're happy, it definitely seems evident that it was what you were after.

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ugh typed poo out and clicked back, i'll just type this all again. This is my argument in a nutshell:

You: Dt is a safer position than cb, so fairley is a safer prospect than peterson.

Me 1: Dt is not a generally safe position, so your argument is false.

Me 2: Peterson is a better prospect than fairley regardless of positions.

Notice i have never said that cb is a better position, i made a negative claim against your point in order to fight against your argument. I never made a positive case for corner.

You have taken what i posted and misread them time after time. I'll list them specifically, because anything less seems to go over your head.

Example 1: I wrote 'my point is never that cb is super safe, simply that dt was not'. This is just meant to be a paraphrase of 'me 1'. You however, have taken the liberty to take this line beyond its intention, stating that you accused me of making a positive argument for cb, when i have not done anything of the sort. I was simply arguing on my first point.

Example 2: 'i'm not sure i'll put fairley's intelligence up with ngata for example'. You take to mean that fairley is a complete retard. Read again. I'm saying he's not as smart as a ngata, an example of a dt that transitioned well to the nfl, with a generally common trait among successful young dt's: Being notably football smart. That doesn''t mean that fairley is dumb, that means he doesn't have a trait that makes the transition smooth.

Once again, you are really good at misunderstanding my point, it verbally insulting me for your own mistake.

For the record, no i didn't note why pp is a better prospect yet, but that's because i was still arguing point 1. If you really want to know why i think he's a better prospect, he's a once in a decade athlete in the position and has great intangibles from understanding of the game, leadership, to motivation. Congratulations, you have made me lose my cool for mistakes you've made. I hope you're happy, it definitely seems evident that it was what you were after.

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Okay, let's walk through this...

So in general is DT a safer position to draft than CB?

lol If you want. I honestly don't believe so, but that's beside the point. As long as it's not head and shoulders over CB in terms of safety (top 3 like you guys seem to be claiming), it's not a good reason by itself to draft Fairley over Peterson. If DT and say CB are close in terms of safety, it's not a good reason.

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I suspect that Petersen will be an impact player. But will be the right guy for us in this draft? I am not sure that is true. If we had a good D line and had a franchise QB, then he would be a great pickup. I really doubt he is the best impact player we can pick up this year though.

We wouldn't go wrong if we picked him up but without a D line that pressures the QB, he wouldn't look excellent in our defense. No one can cover a guy for 6 or 7 seconds which is how much time we gave some QBs this year.

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lol If you want. I honestly don't believe so, but that's beside the point. As long as it's not head and shoulders over CB in terms of safety (top 3 like you guys seem to be claiming), it's not a good reason by itself to draft Fairley over Peterson. If DT and say CB are close in terms of safety, it's not a good reason.

Okay, so why do you think PP would be a safer pick?

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