Potential changes to playoff seeding

[toldozer]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I like it. Winning your division should get you an automatic bid but not an automatic home playoff game. That's just too much IMO. You shouldn't be rewarded that much for being the best team in a bad division nor punished for being the second (or even third) best team in a better division.

You're potentially punished for being a good team in a good division though. What if your whole division is between 9-8 and 7-10 and everyone splits. Now you have to go on the road because another team finished second in their division at 10-7 but played 2 dog poo teams 4 times and won all 4 games. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, NCBlu said:

Slavery was WRONG on so many levels, how that comparison works who knows

Weather ur team that is still in the playoffs gets a home game is no where near that lvl

It was a joke making fun of people who just bitch and moan about change for the sake of just never wanting any change. You know, kinda like you're doing in this thread. LOL 

[frankw]

I see this from multiple angles. On the one hand teams like the Patriots made deep playoff runs consistently because they're division was largely putrid at best and they basically had a guaranteed postseason spot every year. There are still teams that accomplish this.

But I don't see this helping us at least not in the short term. It will however make the Buccaneers path to the playoffs more complicated. And to that I say splendid.

Edited 3 hours ago by frankw

[frankw]

23 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I guess with this type of mindset we'd still have slavery. LOL

Or maybe we could avoid potentially trivializing 400 years of barbarism and atrocities and just talk football.

[jfra78]

29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I guess with this type of mindset we'd still have slavery. LOL 

Realistically, there's been a pretty solid poo storm every year a losing team hosts a playoff game because it's bullshit. Give 'em an automatic bid, but yeah reward the actual better teams.

Lol at comparing the NFL to slavery.  

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, frankw said:

Or maybe we could avoid potentially trivializing 400 years of barbarism and atrocities and just talk football.

So just ignore that and take on the fact that we'd still be watching football in leather helmets with no forward pass if the "let's just fight any and all change on the basis that we hate change" folks always get their way.

It was a joke to point out the absurdity of the logic of the argument of fighting against change because you hate change. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

Lol at comparing the NFL to slavery.  

Where was that comparison made? The comparison was to the mindset of fighting against change simply because you hate change. LOL 

Let's get rid of those damn independent neurologists while we're at it. Damned change and all that...

[frankw]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So just ignore that and take on the fact that we'd still be watching football in leather helmets with no forward pass if the "let's just fight any and all change on the basis that we hate change" folks always get their way.

It was a joke to point out the absurdity of the logic of the argument of fighting against change because you hate change. 

I think it's important to take into account the POV of someone here being skeptical of this change has as much to do with the fact that we are fans of a franchise that hasn't had a winning season or been to the playoffs since 2017. And our division has weakened substantially in those years since. This could basically make divisions largely irrelevant. It's also important to consider the bulk of the owners wouldn't push something like this through for the direct benefit of bottom feeder teams like ours.

Again though. If this actually does pass I'll wait and see how it goes. Nothing I can do anyways.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, frankw said:

I think it's important to take into account the POV of someone here being skeptical of this change has as much to do with the fact that we are fans of a franchise that hasn't had a winning season or been to the playoffs since 2017. And our division has weakened substantially in those years since. This could basically make divisions largely irrelevant. It's also important to consider the bulk of the owners wouldn't push something like this through for the direct benefit of bottom feeder teams like ours.

Again though. If this actually does pass I'll wait and see how it goes. Nothing I can do anyways.

I just try not to have homer takes. Fair is fair IMO. I'm all for the division winners getting automatic bid. That reserves the integrity of honoring division winners. But automatically hosting a playoff game against a team with a better record? Nah. Too much IMO. Giving them an automatic bid over a team with a better record is already plenty.

[jfra78]

17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Where was that comparison made? The comparison was to the mindset of fighting against change simply because you hate change. LOL 

Let's get rid of those damn independent neurologists while we're at it. Damned change and all that...

Yea all change is great, it's like you're trying to get the thread thrown in the tinderbox

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

Yea all change is great, it's like you're trying to get the thread thrown in the tinderbox

I thought the point I made was very obvious, but hey... LOL

[jfra78]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I thought the point I made was very obvious, but hey... LOL

I said there was nothing wrong with the playoff system.  Slavery was obviously very wrong so the comparison doesn't make sense

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, jfra78 said:

I said there was nothing wrong with the playoff system.  Slavery was obviously very wrong so the comparison doesn't make sense

The joke was toward the posters who were just crying about about the change simply because it was change. That's it, that's all.

Good lord 

[jfra78]

You cant say the current Playoff system is unfair because all teams are subject to it.  Almost every team has benefited or been screwed over by it.