2025 College Football Thread

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Super impressed with this guy.  If he were 6ft he'd be a first round pick.  I loved watching him play. Competitiveness through the roof.  Kind of reminds me a bit of Doug Flutie. 

He will also be 25 years old in the 2026 NFL season. He kind of needs to be an instant hit.

[LinvilleGorge]

It's time to start seriously taking about Haynes King for Heisman.

[Davidson Deac II]

Crazy ending to the Wake SMU game as Wake hands SMU its first ACC loss in the regular season.  Ugly game, but an ugly win is better than a well played loss.  

Edited 3 hours ago by Davidson Deac II

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's time to start seriously taking about Haynes King for Heisman.

Glorified option QB in the modern era is a tough sell, TBH. It's a weak class but getting 43% of your season's total in passing TD's in one of your 7 games to date is not an easy sell. Close to 300 yds/GM of offense is very respectable. 

I am just not sure we are in an era where a guy like that is in serious consideration without insanely dominant stats.

ACC POY, for sure. 

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Glorified option QB in the modern era is a tough sell, TBH. It's a weak class but getting 43% of your season's total in passing TD's in one of your 7 games to date is not an easy sell. Close to 300 yds/GM of offense is very respectable. 

I am just not sure we are in an era where a guy like that is in serious consideration without insanely dominant stats.

ACC POY, for sure. 

It should just be about the best college football player and IMO he's it.

I think Heisman voters kinda got tired of hearing about Heisman winners not panning out in the NFL when it just shouldn't be a relevant factor at all.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It should just be about the best college football player and IMO he's it.

I think Heisman voters kinda got tired of hearing about Heisman winners not panning out in the NFL when it just shouldn't be a relevant factor at all.

I think Mendoza is a very clearly better player.

Also, the Heisman is traditionally the best QB or RB on a top 10 ranked team. Has literally never been "best player" at any point in it's history as an award.

[Davidson Deac II]

12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Glorified option QB in the modern era is a tough sell, TBH. It's a weak class but getting 43% of your season's total in passing TD's in one of your 7 games to date is not an easy sell. Close to 300 yds/GM of offense is very respectable. 

I am just not sure we are in an era where a guy like that is in serious consideration without insanely dominant stats.

ACC POY, for sure. 

GT's next two opponents are not very good at defending the pass, and Pitt is only average, so he will have a chance to rack up some numbers before he gets to Georgia.  But I agree with you, almost no chance at the Heisman.  POY or Offensive POY, he is the favorite.

Edited 2 hours ago by Davidson Deac II

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I think Mendoza is a very clearly better player.

Also, the Heisman is traditionally the best QB or RB on a top 10 ranked team. Has literally never been "best player" at any point in it's history as an award.

I think he's clearly the better pro prospect but GT be undefeated with him. And yeah, you gotta be on a good team. That just is what it is. Same with the MVP in the NFL. It's the best player out of the good teams.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think he's clearly the better pro prospect but GT be undefeated with him. And yeah, you gotta be on a good team. That just is what it is. Same with the MVP in the NFL. It's the best player out of the good teams.

They are both top 10 teams and undefeated but Mendoza has been both better, his team has been insanely dominant and his resume is substantially better. He will probably get some consideration, at least. Largely due to the very weak field so far.

I will also point out that the Heisman has been the consistenly least respectable award in all of US college revenue athletics and major professional athletics. 

I view it as basically the MTV Best Kiss award equivalent in athletics.

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think Mendoza is a very clearly better player.

Also, the Heisman is traditionally the best QB or RB on a top 10 ranked team. Has literally never been "best player" at any point in it's history as an award.

I think GT will be 12-1 going into the playoffs.  That will be a top 5 team.   They already are a top 10 team. 

King is the best football player.  Mendoza the best QB

[kungfoodude]

Just now, CRA said:

I think GT will be 12-1 going into the playoffs.  That will be a top 10 team. 

If they lose a game, they will likely not be in the top 10 and it's debateable they will make the playoffs.

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If they lose a game, they will likely not be in the top 10 and it's debateable they will make the playoffs.

12-1 makes them a top 5 team going into the playoffs IMO.  Where you putting a 12-1 ACC champ?  How could you put that outside the top 10

I mean,  that’s the resume that got you into the 4 team playoff.  Not sure how a loss to UGA would send them out of the top 10

[LinvilleGorge]

Somebody will have to make way for a two loss Notre Dame team with zero wins over ranked teams.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, CRA said:

12-1 makes them a top 5 team going into the playoffs IMO.  Were you putting a 12-1 ACC champs?  How could you put that outside the top 10

I mean that’s the resume that got you into the 4 team playoff 

Don't forget 13-0 FSU. They very much didn't deserve a playoff bid and I am not 100% sure a 12-1 ACC team would either.

Lots of variables between then and now but you do have to remember the ACC is a mid-tier G5 conference. You have to be pretty close to being perfect.