2025 College Football Thread

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The ACC should've honestly ceased to exist when they bent the knee to ND during the COVID season allowing them to play a full ACC schedule to save their ability to have a season. The deal should've been put on the table then that you're either in or you're out. No one year waiver. That was the most cuck poo I've ever seen happen in sports. The rest of the conference should've banded together and said absolutely not.

I mean, at the time that wouldn't have worked for them. The truth is that when they had the biggest advantage in that conversation was also when Notre Dame was at their peak arrogance and revenue stream creation(prior to the Longhorns Network, etc).

Notre Dame was just never going to work out. The biggest thing they could have done is go hard AF and try to give insane deals to the premier Big 12 teams. Even then, most of them were eyeing the Big Ten and SEC.

The biggest issue with the ACC was betting wrong. Miami and Virginia Tech ended up being disasters. Basically former college football powerhouses that ended up being afterthoughts by the time they arrived. I mean Miami specifically have literally had a total of three double digit win seasons since they joined the ACC in 2004 and two of those are in the past 2 seasons.

Virginia Tech just fell apart at the wrong time, although I think Franklin will bring them back to prominence to an extent.

Had we had it to do in hindsight, probably taking teams like TCU, Baylor, etc would have been wiser options than some of the moves into the Northeast and getting Miami.

 

But, ultimately, fug all this nonsense. It's the insane greed of college football that killed regional rivalries, college basketball and entire storied, REGIONAL conferences.

That is the real blame. The thirst for the destruction of all college sports which sits squarely at the feet of the slobbering, ignorant rednecks and hillbillies at the top of the college football sphere.

[Bama Panther]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Alabama has proven to be an exceedingly poor place to develop as a QB. It's a good place to get INTO the NFL but not succeed.

If he wants to develop, the NFL or a better college program(specifically for QB development, not college success) would be the best path.

It's very hard to develop in college football unless you are super self motivated. It's a crazy tax on your time with school included.

I see your point, although I would note there is a new system in T-town now. There’s no disputing the fact that Saban’s QBs were unsuccessful in the NFL. Outside of Penix, there’s no historical data to say how DeBoer QBs will fare in the League. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Bama Panther said:

I see your point, although I would note there is a new system in T-town now. There’s no disputing the fact that Saban’s QBs were unsuccessful in the NFL. Outside of Penix, there’s no historical data to say how DeBoer QBs will fare in the League. 

Yeah, but isn't that kind of a data point in  itself?

Not saying things can't change but it's also not like he(a junior) was able to beat out a good QB(NFL-wise) in Milroe. It's the same core argument(largely correct so far) against the Manning. 

Not everyone has a Joe Burrow career arc.

[LinvilleGorge]

24 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, at the time that wouldn't have worked for them. The truth is that when they had the biggest advantage in that conversation was also when Notre Dame was at their peak arrogance and revenue stream creation(prior to the Longhorns Network, etc).

Notre Dame was just never going to work out. The biggest thing they could have done is go hard AF and try to give insane deals to the premier Big 12 teams. Even then, most of them were eyeing the Big Ten and SEC.

The biggest issue with the ACC was betting wrong. Miami and Virginia Tech ended up being disasters. Basically former college football powerhouses that ended up being afterthoughts by the time they arrived. I mean Miami specifically have literally had a total of three double digit win seasons since they joined the ACC in 2004 and two of those are in the past 2 seasons.

Virginia Tech just fell apart at the wrong time, although I think Franklin will bring them back to prominence to an extent.

Had we had it to do in hindsight, probably taking teams like TCU, Baylor, etc would have been wiser options than some of the moves into the Northeast and getting Miami.

 

But, ultimately, fug all this nonsense. It's the insane greed of college football that killed regional rivalries, college basketball and entire storied, REGIONAL conferences.

That is the real blame. The thirst for the destruction of all college sports which sits squarely at the feet of the slobbering, ignorant rednecks and hillbillies at the top of the college football sphere.

Still, the deal should've been you're either in the conference or you're not. Want a season? You're in. If not, fine but your season is scuttled. The ACC should've never taken them in period without football. Nobody gives a poo about ND basketball and football and men's basketball are the only two college sports that actually matter in terms of generating revenue and basketball is a long way behind football 

[HPPantherzfan]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

They won't put Duke into the playoffs.

Duke won't win that game anyway, they're fuging terrible.

A terrible team is in the conference championship game over so good ones.  Hmmm, not sure a terrible would be in the conference championship game.  Not saying they are world betters but terrible?  Come on now

[kungfoodude]

41 minutes ago, HPPantherzfan said:

A terrible team is in the conference championship game over so good ones.  Hmmm, not sure a terrible would be in the conference championship game.  Not saying they are world betters but terrible?  Come on now

He is a Miami cuck. Just another of many irrational college fans that can't see past their own retarded allegiances. 

College football fans are the absolute bottom of the barrel worst when it comes to logic or reasoning.

[Bama Panther]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, but isn't that kind of a data point in  itself?

Not saying things can't change but it's also not like he(a junior) was able to beat out a good QB(NFL-wise) in Milroe. It's the same core argument(largely correct so far) against the Manning. 

Not everyone has a Joe Burrow career arc.

I don’t think DeBoer’s lack of NFL QB success is a data point. Before coaching at Washington, he coached at levels that don’t really equate to NFL success at any position, much less the most important one. 

I’m not suggesting that Simpson will have a Burrow arc. He definitely has room for development though, and I’m not willing to say that it couldn’t happen at Bama next year. 

[LinvilleGorge]

duke isn't terrible, they're just a mediocre college team that hit a long shot on the river card in terms of how the tie breakers worked out. That's not their fault and as a UNC fan I'm as staunchly "fug duke" as you can get.

[HPPantherzfan]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

duke isn't terrible, they're just a mediocre college team that hit a long shot on the river card in terms of how the tie breakers worked out. That's not their fault and as a UNC fan I'm as staunchly "fug duke" as you can get.

Mediocre, I can get down with that even as a Duke fan.  I know they aren’t  Ohio State or whatever but to call them terrible is a disservice to a team that played their schedule and did what they had to do.  Don’t be mad cause your team didn’t 

[OldhamA]

2 hours ago, HPPantherzfan said:

A terrible team is in the conference championship game over so good ones.  Hmmm, not sure a terrible would be in the conference championship game.  Not saying they are world betters but terrible?  Come on now

Look at who they've beaten and lost to this year. 

[HPPantherzfan]

Just now, OldhamA said:

Look at who they've beaten and lost to this year. 

We are 6-2 in the ACC what’s your record?

[OldhamA]

8 minutes ago, HPPantherzfan said:

Mediocre, I can get down with that even as a Duke fan.  I know they aren’t  Ohio State or whatever but to call them terrible is a disservice to a team that played their schedule and did what they had to do.  Don’t be mad cause your team didn’t 

We went 10-2 beating FSU, Florida and Notre Dame.

We'd beat Duke by 4 scores in Charlotte.

Of course I'm frustrated. 

[OldhamA]

Just now, HPPantherzfan said:

We are 6-2 in the ACC what’s your record?

10-2.

We also didn't lose to Tulane, Illinois and UConn.

Thanks for asking though. 

[HPPantherzfan]

Just now, OldhamA said:

We went 10-2 beating FSU, Florida and Notre Dame.

We'd beat Duke by 4 scores in Charlotte.

Of course I'm frustrated. 

Don’t be, they had their chances nothing for you to be frustrated about.  Here’s the deal, Alabama is going to lose to Georgia.  BYU is going to lose to Texas Tech, Duke is going to lose to Virginia, you have the head to head against ND; you’re getting in.  Let everyone else have some fun