MLB Devin Lloyd for WR Jalen Coker??

[Dingo_ate_Babies]

Honestly, let’s dangle David Moore (who probably wont make the team) as trade bait for a ILB to a WR needy team. Nothing to lose. No way you give up Coker for one.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Dingo_ate_Babies said:

Honestly, let’s dangle David Moore (who probably wont make the team) as trade bait for a ILB to a WR needy team. Nothing to lose. No way you give up Coker for one.

Honestly, I'd trade Thielen before I'd trade Coker. If Renfrow keeps showing out it honestly might become an enticing option if he's up for it. He'd probably just retire if we tried to ship him to Jacksonville but let's say somebody like KC for instance had interest? Not sure what their LB depth chart looks like but something like that could make a lot of sense. Thielen could go ring chasing with the best QB and offensive coach in the league and we could turn an aging WR into hopefully longer term roster building blocks.

[shaqattaq]

16 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

kinda crazy to not trade an udfa for a 1st rounder who has performed.

yep, and on the flip side, Jax has not expressed any interest in trading him that I've seen. The article said "Lloyd will undoubtedly be a key piece."

Fun offseason what-if game to play though.

Edited 20 hours ago by shaqattaq

[Dingo_ate_Babies]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, I'd trade Thielen before I'd trade Coker. If Renfrow keeps showing out it honestly might become an enticing option if he's up for it. He'd probably just retire if we tried to ship him to Jacksonville but let's say somebody like KC for instance had interest? Not sure what their LB depth chart looks like but something like that could make a lot of sense. Thielen could go ring chasing with the best QB and offensive coach in the league and we could turn an aging WR into hopefully longer term roster building blocks.

Yeah, I would consider trading Thielen as well. I have a feeling they wont considering they just gave him a pay bump. 

I would hang on to Renfrow, because he’s can essentially replace Thielen as the old reliable WR (who is retiring after this year anyway). 

Edited 20 hours ago by Dingo_ate_Babies

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Dingo_ate_Babies said:

Yeah, I would consider trading Thielen as well. I have a feeling they wont considering they just gave him a pay bump. 

I would hang on to Renfrow, because he’s can essentially replace Thielen as the old reliable WR (who is retiring after this year anyway). 

I think they likely strongly value his presence both for Bryce and the young WRs which is completely understandable and I'm all for keeping him. I'm just saying that if Renfrow can largely replicate it for a lot less money then it frees us up to make a move.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

yep, and on the flip side, Jax has not expressed any interest in trading him that I've seen. The article said "Lloyd will undoubtedly be a key piece."

Fun offseason what-if game to play though.

You can't really pay much attention to what is said in these regards. You don't get maximum value for a guy by telling the whole league you're ready to send him packing. Actions speak louder than words and you don't decline the fifth year option on "undoubtedly a key piece".

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15 hours ago, Basbear said:

No one wants to answer my questions, why wasn't Coker with BY and the whole WR crew at ATs bro retreat bonding?

No one knows the answer to that question. Maybe he had a family vacation planned, maybe he was sick, maybe he had an outstanding warrant in Minnesota??? Only the team knows, and they ain't sharing. We can't just assume that it means that some sort of sordid drama is going on.

I agree that Lloyd would instantly be our best ILB, but you're making too much out of a missed weekend.

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

I think it's very Carolina Panther fans of us to finally have a strength on this team and fans want to blow it up.....

Coker IS part of the reason it's strong. Can't count on AT or Renfrow to finish season healthy. BY needs all the help he can get. 

We roll the dice on ILB this yr n if it doesn't work out address next year in the off-season.

End of story

Our starting WRs for the next 2yrs min should be Tmac, XL n Cokeman 

Edited 20 hours ago by BEASTfromdaEAST

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You can't really pay much attention to what is said in these regards. You don't get maximum value for a guy by telling the whole league you're ready to send him packing. Actions speak louder than words and you don't decline the fifth year option on "undoubtedly a key piece".

Agreed. the point of the article, though, was that the Jags (or anyone else) wants to guarantee a ILB $14.5M for 2026. Lloyd has been solid, but it looks like the Jags are already trying to draft his replacement for 2026.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, shaqattaq said:

Agreed. the point of the article, though, was that the Jags (or anyone else) wants to guarantee a ILB $14.5M for 2026. Lloyd has been solid, but it looks like the Jags are already trying to draft his replacement for 2026.

A lot of times that fifth year option is just picked up to buy another year of having a guy secured and an extension is worked out before that fifth year gets here. It's just a way to help secure a young talent and buy you time. Most fifth year options are picked up and honestly, if you're not willing to pick up a 5th year option on that position then that position should probably be off your 1st round draft board.

 

[shaqattaq]

15 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Into the 20s! So from 32 to 29? Oh damn! Let's go!!!!

 

I did the same math.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

I think it's very Carolina Panther fans of us to finally have a strength on this team and fans want to blow it up.....

Coker IS part of the reason it's strong. Can't count on AT or Renfrow to finish season healthy. BY needs all the help he can get. 

We roll the dice on ILB this yr n if it doesn't work out address next year in the off-season.

End of story

Our starting WRs for the next 2yrs min should be Tmac, XL n Cokeman 

We don't even have a definite strength. We have a lot of unproven young potential that a lot of people are trying to project into a proven strength. These guys still have to go out there and prove it on the field but some folks are ready to ship off the one youngster who has actually shown the most. That's weird.

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We don't even have a definite strength. We have a lot of unproven young potential that a lot of people are trying to project into a proven strength. These guys still have to go out there and prove it on the field but some folks are ready to ship off the one youngster who has actually shown the most. That's weird.

You right but IMO Coker last year proved it. When AT went down he was the only one make plays.

Making side line catches, route running. The guy was overlooked and DM made a great guess with picking him up. 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

You right but IMO Coker last year proved it. When AT went down he was the only one make plays.

Making side line catches, route running. The guy was overlooked and DM made a great guess with picking him up. 

I definitely think Coker is our most promising young WR based on his play on an NFL field.