ESPN: "Future" Power Rankings

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Greatman77 said:

According to Grok: 

In the 2024 NFL season, only one team had two running backs who each rushed for at least 1,000 yards: the Detroit Lions, with Jahmyr Gibbs (1,412 yards) and David Montgomery (1,077 yards). 

No idea if this is true or an AI hallucination.

are you saying 1000 yards the same season on same team?  Or 1000 in general because what the lions did last year was def not common and thats not what we have here.  

[45catfan]

Hey, at least we are ahead of the Saints who are all in on tank for Arch.  If we don't sweep the Saints this year, it will be the ultimate humiliation...losing to a team in full tank mode.

[Greatman77]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

are you saying 1000 yards the same season on same team?  Or 1000 in general because what the lions did last year was def not common and thats not what we have here.  

Good question. According to Grok again: 

Only one NFL team, the Detroit Lions, has two running backs on their current 2025 roster—Jahmyr Gibbs and David Montgomery—who each rushed for at least 1,000 yards in the 2024 NFL season.

Edited August 11 by Greatman77
Grok doesn't mention the Panthers...

[CRA]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Lions

Texans

Bucs

Cowboys, kc and skins are within 100 yards of having 2

I quit counting there

 

so yeah its not some rarefied feat

 

I think this is people viewing the claim as two different things.  

Texans got multiple guys that have hit 1k.  Heck, the Falcons got multiple guys.

The Panthers specifically have 2 that happened to do it in the year 2024

 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Greatman77 said:

Good question. According to Grok again: 

Only one NFL team, the Detroit Lions, has two running backs on their current 2025 roster—Jahmyr Gibbs and David Montgomery—who each rushed for at least 1,000 yards in the 2024 NFL season.

right but other teams have multiple 1000 yard rushers from previous seasons, 1000 yards isnt really the benchmark that it once was 25ish years ago

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Icege said:

According to the numbers you would lose that bet because it's just one.

https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/category/rushing/2024/reg/all/rushingyards/desc

We haven't had two 1k backs since 2009. I would highly doubt that happens anytime soon.

It would require a significant increase in rushing attempts and efficiency. Not to mention a big improvement defensively.

That 2009 season we totaled 525 rushing attempts and also were ranked in the Top 10 in Points and Yardage defense.

We had 410 rushing attempts in 2024 in 17 games. 

Taking credit for Dowdle as a "1k back" would expand that criteria to literally any team with a current roster RB that has run for 1k yards in the NFL. That likely would be a wider pool with that criteria.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

The Panthers specifically have 2 that happened to do it in the year 2024

I am not sure why that would carry any more weight then the others, going back to the dude wondering why there was no stock in that particular stat

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

We haven't had two 1k backs since 2009. I would highly doubt that happens anytime soon.

It would require a significant increase in rushing attempts and efficiency. Not to mention a big improvement defensively.

That 2009 season we totaled 525 rushing attempts and also were ranked in the Top 10 in Points and Yardage defense.

We had 410 rushing attempts in 2024 in 17 games. 

Taking credit for Dowdle as a "1k back" would expand that criteria to literally any team with a current roster RB that has run for 1k yards in the NFL. That likely would be a wider pool with that criteria.

nicely put, you said it much better then me

[UnluckyforSome]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Hey, at least we are ahead of the Saints who are all in on tank for Arch.  If we don't sweep the Saints this year, it will be the ultimate humiliation...losing to a team in full tank mode.

Nah, losing to the Falcons at home during their Petrino "I quit" season is worse. Not by much though.

[UnluckyforSome]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

We haven't had two 1k backs since 2009. I would highly doubt that happens anytime soon.

It would require a significant increase in rushing attempts and efficiency. Not to mention a big improvement defensively.

That 2009 season we totaled 525 rushing attempts and also were ranked in the Top 10 in Points and Yardage defense.

We had 410 rushing attempts in 2024 in 17 games. 

Taking credit for Dowdle as a "1k back" would expand that criteria to literally any team with a current roster RB that has run for 1k yards in the NFL. That likely would be a wider pool with that criteria.

The current coach has not been known for operating a run heavy offense either.

[csx]

Montgomery did not rush for 1,000 yards. Stats are easy to find

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, UnluckyforSome said:

The current coach has not been known for operating a run heavy offense either.

That too.

I am very happy to have signed Dowdle(needed a little time to warm up to it, as I was hoping for a draft RB) but the visions of Double Trouble 2.0 needed to be tempered quite a bit. I definitely don't think we will see anything like that. For all the reasons listed.

[csx]

50 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I had people losing their minds about me calling the 2024 roster the worst in franchise history and a very clear last place in the NFL prior to Game 1 last year.

I get being optimistic but we have to also be realistic. Are there arguments for us to be above #32? Yes, although I disagree. But to say we are anything outside the bottom 2 or 3 is bananas. 

 

Well you were obviously wrong.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, csx said:

Well you were obviously wrong.

Unsurprisingly, your reading comprehension is lacking.