The Panthers have an effort problem

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Legette is on the chopping block. This wouldn't be the case if Coker hadn't emerged. Legette is looking more and more like a bust, at least for this team. Fun locker room presence but we need defense and he's at the height of his value. If he don't do something the first few games of the season, he needs to be out at the trade deadline so we can get defensive help in here.

XL went to one of the worst teams in the NFL.  One that features a weak passing O and bad overall QB play on the season.  

XL is getting way too much hate IMO.   He had an okay rookie season all things considered.   Very much on par w/ prospects that projected around the same area with him.   Panthers made a 2nd rounder a first round technicality for that contract. 

XL also getting this weird kicker type blame for games.  XL somehow single handedly lost us games on one play.....and then we ignore the rest of the team that went about losing the game for 4 quarters.   Should he of caught the Philly ball? 100%.  The O and D still played like garbage that entire game.  Even after the drop, Panthers had two shots starting w/ a 3rd and 4 to convert.  They kept playing bad instead.  And even if we XL made the play....Philly would have had a minute and half to get into FG range to win it.  Who is banking on the Panther D getting that stop? 

also, I am deemed Mr. Negative, yet here I am defending a no good dirty Gamecock lol

 

[RumHam]

On 8/21/2025 at 9:22 AM, CRA said:

XL went to one of the worst teams in the NFL.  One that features a weak passing O and bad overall QB play on the season.  

XL is getting way too much hate IMO.   He had an okay rookie season all things considered.   Very much on par w/ prospects that projected around the same area with him.   Panthers made a 2nd rounder a first round technicality for that contract. 

XL also getting this weird kicker type blame for games.  XL somehow single handedly lost us games on one play.....and then we ignore the rest of the team that went about losing the game for 4 quarters.   Should he of caught the Philly ball? 100%.  The O and D still played like garbage that entire game.  Even after the drop, Panthers had two shots starting w/ a 3rd and 4 to convert.  They kept playing bad instead.  And even if we XL made the play....Philly would have had a minute and half to get into FG range to win it.  Who is banking on the Panther D getting that stop? 

also, I am deemed Mr. Negative, yet here I am defending a no good dirty Gamecock lol

 

checking back in.

[raleigh-panther]

2 minutes ago, RumHam said:

checking back in.

Nothing has changed friend 

in 7 years 

[RumHam]

Just now, raleigh-panther said:

Nothing has changed friend 

in 7 years 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, RumHam said:

checking back in.

No problem.  I addressed that in my 2 things I was wrong about and 1 I was right about post. 

XL at this point just needs to be deemed Laviska Shenault.  A bad WR who has great athletic traits.  Scheme him up a quirky play but he can't play WR at this level right now.   We need Tmac and Coker on the outside.  Renfrow in the slot.  Maybe work XL into some slot relief for Renfrow w/ a schemed up play and some run blocking.   

I was wrong on XL.  Given I didn't see this preseason I have him more benefit of the doubt than most.  But I'm not going to be some Bryce Young apologist for XL that denies reality.  

XL stinks as a WR.  We bet on raw talent and lost that bet.  Is what it is. 

[Tr3ach]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

No problem.  I addressed that in my 2 things I was wrong about and 1 I was right about post. 

XL at this point just needs to be deemed Laviska Shenault.  A bad WR who has great athletic traits.  Scheme him up a quirky play but he can't play WR at this level right now.   We need Tmac and Coker on the outside.  Renfrow in the slot.  Maybe work XL into some slot relief for Renfrow w/ a schemed up play and some run blocking.   

I was wrong on XL.  Given I didn't see this preseason I have him more benefit of the doubt than most.  But I'm not going to be some Bryce Young apologist for XL that denies reality.  

XL stinks as a WR.  We bet on raw talent and lost that bet.  Is what it is. 

I dont blame you, I blame the front office that keeps thinking guys with 5+ years of college are "raw"

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

  We bet on raw talent and lost that bet.  Is what it is. 

It is a common theme of the new regime …

….except at QB