Moton extension. 2 more years, $44M

[mrcompletely11]

 

Literally verbatim the exact same posts when we signed cmac to a unnecessary deal.   We never fuging learn, as I suspected its the same guys doing a circle jerk because he has "earned" this, so tell me how did that work out for us after the fact?

[Loyalty4Life]

43 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seriously. He was already under contract this year. Just let him play out the season and see how the knees hold up. I just don't understand why this organization is always so eager to make financial decisions that aren't pressing and need more evaluation.

Because the more you wait, the more the price goes up and it goes up fast.  Ask Jerry Jones how waiting on Dak and Lamb and Parsons is working out for their salary cap.  

The guy basically said he has to ice down his knees after practice and quit dunking at the rec center and ya'll talk like he Hulk Hogan back from the dead for one more match.

Keep ignoring the part of the same sentence where he says it's nothing that other linemen in the NFL don't deal with.  Or the later article where he says, "NO KNEE PROBLEMS.  THE KNEES ARE FEELING GOOD."

We paid the man because he's still shown the ability to play at an elite level and the options in upcoming free agency for potential replacement.  

How quickly we forget the wasteland that was LT between Gross retiring and getting Icky. 

Byron Bell
Michael Oher
Mike Remmers
Matt Kalil
Chris Clark
Dennis Daley
Greg Little
Russell Okung
Trent Scott
Michael Schofield

Many times the cost of not resigning a player is more costly what you pay.   We paid out the nose to have the oline be a strength of the team and because of an offhand comment you wanna open up RT to be a turn style for however long it may take to find another starter.  

Ya'll making Skip Bayless look like a member of Mensa.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

Because the more you wait, the more the price goes up and it goes up fast.  Ask Jerry Jones how waiting on Dak and Lamb and Parsons is working out for their salary cap.  

The guy basically said he has to ice down his knees after practice and quit dunking at the rec center and ya'll talk like he Hulk Hogan back from the dead for one more match.

Keep ignoring the part of the same sentence where he says it's nothing that other linemen in the NFL don't deal with.  Or the later article where he says, "NO KNEE PROBLEMS.  THE KNEES ARE FEELING GOOD."

We paid the man because he's still shown the ability to play at an elite level and the options in upcoming free agency for potential replacement.  

How quickly we forget the wasteland that was LT between Gross retiring and getting Icky. 

Byron Bell
Michael Oher
Mike Remmers
Matt Kalil
Chris Clark
Dennis Daley
Greg Little
Russell Okung
Trent Scott
Michael Schofield

Many times the cost of not resigning a player is more costly what you pay.   We paid out the nose to have the oline be a strength of the team and because of an offhand comment you wanna open up RT to be a turn style for however long it may take to find another starter.  

Ya'll making Skip Bayless look like a member of Mensa.

LOLOLOLOLOL

 

You think a team is going to give him more then a 40million deal after this season no matter how well he played?  Goddamn.  You would think, after seeing Brady and others test the fa market only to come crawling back for minimum deals that Morgan simply would have waited and rolled the dice on seeing what a 33 year old RT with bum knees would sign for with the team that drafted him.  

[Loyalty4Life]

14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

 

Literally verbatim the exact same posts when we signed cmac to a unnecessary deal.   We never fuging learn, as I suspected its the same guys doing a circle jerk because he has "earned" this, so tell me how did that work out for us after the fact?

It worked out great for San Francisco and CMC.  He earned every cent of that contract.  Was in the running for league MVP, played in and nearly won a Super Bowl and got on the cover of Madden.  Even with hindsight of these facts, the fact that you are trying to make a case that it was stupid to resign him is plain stupid on so many levels.
 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

It worked out great for San Francisco and CMC.  

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

Odd take, "yeah it worked out fine for the guy we paid and the team we traded him to, us not so much, but you are dumb anyway"

 

Damn dude dont ever change

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Because the more you wait, the more the price goes up and it goes up fast.  Ask Jerry Jones how waiting on Dak and Lamb and Parsons is working out for their salary cap.  

The guy basically said he has to ice down his knees after practice and quit dunking at the rec center and ya'll talk like he Hulk Hogan back from the dead for one more match.

Keep ignoring the part of the same sentence where he says it's nothing that other linemen in the NFL don't deal with.  Or the later article where he says, "NO KNEE PROBLEMS.  THE KNEES ARE FEELING GOOD."

We paid the man because he's still shown the ability to play at an elite level and the options in upcoming free agency for potential replacement.  

How quickly we forget the wasteland that was LT between Gross retiring and getting Icky. 

Byron Bell
Michael Oher
Mike Remmers
Matt Kalil
Chris Clark
Dennis Daley
Greg Little
Russell Okung
Trent Scott
Michael Schofield

Many times the cost of not resigning a player is more costly what you pay.   We paid out the nose to have the oline be a strength of the team and because of an offhand comment you wanna open up RT to be a turn style for however long it may take to find another starter.  

Ya'll making Skip Bayless look like a member of Mensa.

The franchise tag is there as a last resort. There was zero reason to rush this. 

[frankw]

1 minute ago, Loyalty4Life said:

It worked out great for San Francisco and CMC.  He earned every cent of that contract. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, frankw said:

again, odd hell for him to die on, I bet he wishes he had that one back.

 

Panthers make a dumb decision, San fran capitalizes on it and Loyalty tries to dunk on the huddle because of it.   Whew boy you can tell who started drinking at lunch

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The franchise tag is there as a last resort. There was zero reason to rush this. 

I cannot remember the last time we actually used a franchise tag on a player..............oh wait...............

[carpanfan96]

8 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

LOLOLOLOLOL

 

You think a team is going to give him more then a 40million deal after this season no matter how well he played?  Goddamn.  You would think, after seeing Brady and others test the fa market only to come crawling back for minimum deals that Morgan simply would have waited and rolled the dice on seeing what a 33 year old RT with bum knees would sign for with the team that drafted him.  

I've tried to explain how crazy this deal is. 

Let's recap tho. 

Counting this seasons contract changes. 

Has 14m more guaranteed then shows in his new contract because the team converted some of his salary in 2025 to an additional signing bonus. 

So the two year 44m with 40m guaranteed deal from the extension is really a 3 year deal (4 with void year to spread signing bonus hit) worth 58.3m dollars with a staggering 54.2m guaranteed.

Which puts him at the following among RT. 

6th in APY at 19.4m 

1st in GPY at 18m 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

I've tried to explain how crazy this deal is. 

Let's recap tho. 

Counting this seasons contract changes. 

Has 14m more guaranteed then shows in his new contract because the team converted some of his salary in 2025 to an additional signing bonus. 

So the two year 44m with 40m guaranteed deal from the extension is really a 3 year deal (4 with void year to spread signing bonus hit) worth 58.3m dollars with a staggering 54.2m guaranteed.

Which puts him at the following among RT. 

6th in APY at 19.4m 

1st in GPY at 18m 

you are doing the lords work in here, I appreciate it

[carpanfan96]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you are doing the lords work in here, I appreciate it

Yea it doesn't matter how it's structured really, he's here for the contract length. 

Edited 13 hours ago by carpanfan96

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

Yea it doesn't matter it's structured really, he's here for the contract length. 

someone suggested we could trade him but nah that salary is on us.   fuging nuts, absolute nuts to do this deal on Aug 22.   It quite literally makes zero sense.  Who the fug we signing, who the fug we trading for that is going to move the needle one bit at this point?

[TD alt]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, he has been nothing but impatient with attempts at splash moves. Players, GM's, coaches. He wants desperately to be seen as a genius.

Players, GMs and coaches? He was hiring from the same pool as everyone else. When he hired Rhule, Rhule was a hot name. Where he made his error was giving Rhule all that control (and a long contract, but Tepper had to pay that). Hiring the hot name from college and the coach and GM pool is not indicative of any genius, it's just business as usual as far as I'm concerned. I mean, if he had come in and hired Ben Johnson in the beginning, for example, and Johnson became a wunderkind, then we could say, "that was  genius." Moreover, I think it's worth noting that Tepper was a new (majority) owner and still trying to figure things out. He learned relatively quickly that it wasn't as easy as he thought. Moreover, I think it's somewhat safe to assume that Morgan wasn't the first or second choice, and we already know that Canales wasn't. Bryce Young was our first choice, but he was covered by several teams, including the Texans, so, like I said, "business as usual, nothing genius."