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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sure you do. You know what those teams did? They drafted well for years. They didn't trade massive assets for non-QBs when they didn't have the QB position solved. 

Like I said, you're talking about Parsons like he's just some average Joe "non QB".  He's on pace to be the best pass rusher of all time. His value to a team is practically immeasurable. You don't agree, but others do, and that's why the Panthers have been listed as possible suitors.

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1 minute ago, TD alt said:

Like I said, you're talking about Parsons like he's just some average Joe "non QB".  He's on pace to be the best pass rusher of all time. His value to a team is practically immeasurable. You don't agree, but others do, and that's why the Panthers have been listed as possible suitors.

No, I'm not. I'm talking about the Panthers as if they're a team with a major question mark at the QB position. This isn't about Parsons. It's about the Panthers' current situation.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

And he's gonna put up big stat numbers for 6-7 win teams if we swing this deal. That's what you want? You wanna strut around and brag about having the best pass rusher in the league while the Cowboys draft in the top 10 with our picks?

There's more than one way to get to a championship. It's almost criminal how you're talking about our offense. If you think the Panthers should be scared of making moves because Bryce sucks and the rest of the players suck, or that Dan and Canales suck, just say so. Don't half-step. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I mean, it's all basically moot anyway. If they really turned down two 1sts, a 2nd, and Gary then they're not even entertaining trading him right now 

I said early that this was a likely hypothetical. Dallas isn't going to let Parsons walk...unless Jerry's gone mad.

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2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

There's more than one way to get to a championship. It's almost criminal how you're talking about our offense. If you think the Panthers should be scared of making moves because Bryce sucks and the rest of the players suck, or that Dan and Canales suck, just say so. Don't half-step. 

Not doing dumb stuff isn't being scared. I think the Panthers should stop doing dumb stuff.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No, I'm not. I'm talking about the Panthers as if they're a team with a major question mark at the QB position. This isn't about Parsons. It's about the Panthers' current situation.

I'm going to think that our situation is improving until proven otherwise. I like many of Dan's draftees (especially this year's). What I don't necessarily like is the contract to Turk Wharton. I also didn't like the Brooks pick (because I thought Chuba was good). But nobody's perfect. I think that with another draft or two, we'll really be improved. Good GMs can draft impact players outside of the first round.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not doing dumb stuff isn't being scared. I think the Panthers should stop doing dumb stuff.

All your opinion. I think that it's dumb to refuse to inquire about players at a position of need and see if you can work things out. Transactions are about the details, plain and simple.

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10 hours ago, Tbe said:

He didn’t look great in preseason. 

We still need to draft a RT next year.

that would be a great idea.  Expect an injury, and if you don't get one, he can develop.  Many OTs struggle as rookies--so 2026 is the year to get his replacement.

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4 minutes ago, TD alt said:

All your opinion. I think that it's dumb to refuse to inquire about players at a position of need and see if you can work things out. Transactions are about the details, plain and simple.

I'm not saying you don't inquire. You keep saying that. I have not said that. I'm saying you don't trade two 1sts and more then pay him the highest defensive player contract in NFL history. Do that and then Bryce regresses and now you're back to QB shopping depleted of roster building resources. On other words, fuged outside of an absolute miracle.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not saying you don't inquire. You keep saying that. I have not said that. I'm saying you don't trade two 1sts and more then pay him the highest defensive player contract in NFL history. Do that and then Bryce regresses and now you're back to QB shopping depleted of roster building resources. On other words, fuged outside of an absolute miracle.

No need to inquire then.

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