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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen

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On 8/26/2025 at 12:12 AM, ProcessBlue2 said:

The problem is if he leaves, all of the Bryce fanboys will use it as an excuse for any regression or lack of progress that Bryce shows. Despite having an expensive OL and 2 first round picks at WR. I really would like to see the real Bryce this year before the 5th year option next spring.

The problem with this thought process that assumes the WRs taken in the 1st round are actually 1st round talents. People like you have made such a big deal about Bryce being bad in his first 2 seasons and gave the excuse he had "enough" talent around him to be a good player. Here is the talent that was around him

From NAS's thread

First two years

DJ Chark: free agent
Hayden Hurst: free agent
Diontae Johnson: free agent
Terrace Marshall, Jr.: free agent
Jonathan Mingo: traded
Miles Sanders: released
Laviska Shenault: free agent

Why do you expect our young QB to have thrived with the likes of the above list if 31 other NFL teams choose to not surround their QBs with these players? Tmac is probably going to be a good WR. Is it a surefire thing? No it isn't. Same with XL. How many drops did this 1st round pick you are propping up on a pedestal have his rookie year? You want Bryce to throw it to him AND catch it for him? Sounds like unrealistic expectations if you ask me.

All that aside it is put up or shut up time for this offense though. But just because we invested heavily in 1st round WRs doesn't mean they will automatically be good. With or without Bryce.

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