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Sporters reporters forecast Panthers record

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Just now, Waldo said:

Again you're stuck on blame and Im talking about the situation. Draft position absolutely has a part in QB decisions because it's part of what they are weighing hold/move from a 3rd year QB just like who is available i  the draft. There is zero milk and it's not about blame or fair or any other weighted arguments, it's just the situation and the business.

Are you OK? Your comprehension of what I am saying is well bellow your usual banter. 

The cost was paid because the Panthers thought he was worth it. It doesn't automatically mean he is or will be. That's what im saying. I could care less what the team gave up, that's on them. What matters now is if they have a qb going forward. They seem to think they do and have bet their future employment on it. I'm just an observer at this point. 

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

The cost was paid because the Panthers thought he was worth it. It doesn't automatically mean he is or will be. That's what im saying. I could care less what the team gave up, that's on them. What matters now is if they have a qb going forward. They seem to think they do and have bet their future employment on it. I'm just an observer at this point. 

the real question with most sports teams often, is who believes in who.   generally speaking, in house, there isn't always agreement on things.....but decisions get made and company lines get trotted out. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The cost was paid because the Panthers thought he was worth it. It doesn't automatically mean he is or will be. That's what im saying. I could care less what the team gave up, that's on them. What matters now is if they have a qb going forward. They seem to think they do and have bet their future employment on it. I'm just an observer at this point. 

Where they are picking in the upcoming draft when you have a QB entering his 4th year matters, not when you picked the 4th year QB. A team picking late would weigh options differently than a team picking top 10. That what I have been talking g about the entire time boss

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6 hours ago, CRA said:

Canales already talking about how doesn't want to give Hubbard too much work early this year.  Dude, look at your schedule.   You should be all in on winning early.  Which is why you should of been running a heavy preseason. 

He said that?

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1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Where they are picking in the upcoming draft when you have a QB entering his 4th year matters, not when you picked the 4th year QB. A team picking late would weigh options differently than a team picking top 10. That what I have been talking g about the entire time boss

I have no idea what the team is thinking, boss, and neither do you. I have no idea what they will do or should do based on a hypothetical situation. We will find out when they get there.

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The only way that would make any level of sense is if Canales is just fully trying to put our third year #1 overall and pick and the passing offense in sink or swim scenarios early in the season. Because if you look back to the stat logs for that stretch of games where the offense looked "better" with Bryce. Chuba was more often than not the catalyst.

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I have no idea what the team is thinking, boss, and neither do you. I have no idea what they will do or should do based on a hypothetical situation. We will find out when they get there.

It's basically NFLing and I gave an example. I don't know what they are going to do but if the Bears can do it then other bottom dwellers can figure out the most basic concepts too. 

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It's basically NFLing and I gave an example. I don't know what they are going to do but if the Bears can't do it then other bottom dwellers can figure out the most basic concepts too. 

Teams are bottom dwellers for a reason.  We have been one for almost a decade now. Its not going to change overnight or with 1 single player.

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This is not the year to be mid. BY either has to be the guy or needs to pull a Jimmy Clausen and lead the Panthers to the #1 over pick.

It's just week 1, but QB draft can bounce back. 

Either way don't go 7-10, this needs to playoffs or lose all the games type of season. 

After that 23 points showing for all of PS and with thinking PS doesn't matter, it does if you are that bad.... 

This feel like 4 win team that spoils drafting #5 overall with a week 18 win, thus dropping into the teens with 5 total wins..

Talent and lack of elite coaching, just too much to over much unless the luck gods give the Panthers all they can.  

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7 minutes ago, frankw said:

Ok yeah see my post above. I feel like that is a direct challenge to his starting QB.

I want Hubbard to have like 25 carries.  

4 of our 5 wins were basically the result of Hubbard being the primary cog of the O.   That’s how we win.  I don’t need Canales thinking week 18 is where he and Bryce needs thier heads  

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