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Bryce Young Is Terrible


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Just now, Paa Langfart said:

how many coaches does he have to kill before you might be convinced ?

Were you impressed with our play calling today?  I think there is plenty of blame to spread around.

Only guys I wouldn't blame right off the top of my head are Chuba, Fitz, and TMac.

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14 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I have no reason to lie about it.  Believe whatever you want.  I don't think he is doing great either.  Only reason I brought it up was to dispel the idea I am a Bryce hugger.

I absolutely hated it when Teddy was here, but I still supported him, because he was the guy.

I am a Panthers fan.  It is in my best interest for whoever is in the driver's seat to win.

Show a post saying you wanted stroud

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Show a post saying you wanted stroud

I don't think there is one brother.  Most of my Panthers chat is with a buddy of mine who doesn't post here.

I don't care if you believe me.  I only watch Panthers ball, so I don't even know how he is doing. 

I just assume he is doing better than Young.  Not like I haven't been wrong about a pick before.

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24 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I have more hope for the future with Bryce than I do with Dalton.  If they are both going to be trash, I would rather risk it with Bryce.

Dalton is done soon either way.

There's no future with either one of them. IMO, soon it's going to come down to proving to your locker room you're willing to try something and playing the QB that best allows you to evaluate your receivers.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

There's no future with either one of them. IMO, soon it's going to come down to proving to your locker room you're willing to try something and playing the QB that heat allows you to evaluate your receivers.

You could be right.  I am just not ready to give up on Bryce given the circumstances.

I was hoping we would pickup someone with more potential to be QB3.  Hooker wasn't on my list, but I will root for him just like I would anyone else wearing a Panther's jersey.

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24 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Were you impressed with our play calling today?  I think there is plenty of blame to spread around.

Only guys I wouldn't blame right off the top of my head are Chuba, Fitz, and TMac.

McMillan could've caught that TD but whatever. Chuba, the specialists and, that's about it for being absolved. Horn made a great pick. The defensive line and linebackers may as well not exist. I think Dan might've hit on a WR pick finally, but no one else was of any value, per usual.

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12 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Show a post saying you wanted stroud

I tried to think back and find a pick I was wrong on.  Best I could come up with was I was high on Ereck Flowers in 2015.

I wanted Dalvin Cook as our RB choice in 2017, but in my defense, I wasn't using a first on him.  CMC ended up being on of my favorite players ever and I regret not looking more his way in the draft process.

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2 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

McMillan could've caught that TD but whatever. Chuba, the specialists and, that's about it for being absolved. Horn made a great pick. The defensive line and linebackers may as well not exist. I think Dan might've hit on a WR pick finally, but no one else was of any value, per usual.

TMac is very exciting.  Crazy to think that was his first game.  He has some insane hands.

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TMac is going to have to save Bryce and the Panthers this season. They realized this way too late today but it was apparent immediately.  We somehow picked the two most unnatural WR’s I’ve ever seen on an NFL field in XL and previously Mingo.  That’s bad scouting. 
 

Bryce 2nd and 1 INT was unacceptable for a franchise QB in year 3. He had no command of the offense today, he and the Center looked like they’d never played together before. 

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