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Observer Young needed to be more than turnover fred

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9 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Just let his fans have their delusions. Its not worth repeatedly pointing out the errors in their logic. Who cares anymore? 

You think it is an error to believe that Bryce may have been a more consistent player under a well rounded team with a coach that uses him in an advantageous way?

that’s not delusion. I never said that he would be a hall of famer, or that he would even be a serviceable starter. Only that he may have turned it around which under the current circumstances means just mediocre play.

not once did I even mention in the slightest that he could have ever been a top tier talent.

reading comprehension is key especially in a forum.

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1 minute ago, Diehardpanth02 said:

You think it is an error to believe that Bryce may have been a more consistent player under a well rounded team with a coach that uses him in an advantageous way?

that’s not delusion. I never said that he would be a hall of famer, or that he would even be a serviceable starter. Only that he may have turned it around which under the current circumstances means just mediocre play.

not once did I even mention in the slightest that he could have ever been a top tier talent.

reading comprehension is key especially in a forum.

You are free to think that. I'm also free to think that his chances of success are slim to none. He has zero chance here. But to each his own. 

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3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You are free to think that. I'm also free to think that his chances of success are slim to none. He has zero chance here. But to each his own. 

Yeah your right good point. Sometimes it’s easy to forget we have the freedom of thought.

 

if you actually read my original comment you would have noticed I said the same. Not that it was slim to none only acknowledging I can’t predict the future or in another opportunity he may be better. It actually happens all the time(Sam Arnold, Daniel jones, Baker mayfield)

I even said he’s not our guy in this post and in multiple others. In fact I’ve been very critical of the dude

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5 minutes ago, Diehardpanth02 said:

Yeah your right good point. Sometimes it’s easy to forget we have the freedom of thought.

 

if you actually read my original comment you would have noticed I said the same. Not that it was slim to none only acknowledging I can’t predict the future or in another opportunity he may be better. It actually happens all the time(Sam Arnold, Daniel jones, Baker mayfield)

I even said he’s not our guy in this post and in multiple others. In fact I’ve been very critical of the dude

The difference between those guys and Young is that none of those guys were as bad as Young or as limited. Young is just not cut out to be a starting nfl qb. It doesn't detract from his accomplishments before he got to the league. Its more of an indictment of the executives on the team that believed he could. 

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17 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The difference between those guys and Young is that none of those guys were as bad as Young or as limited. Young is just not cut out to be a starting nfl qb. It doesn't detract from his accomplishments before he got to the league. Its more of an indictment of the executives on the team that believed he could. 

Also what I said?

again… the no hope in charlotte part

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7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I wish people would actually go back and watch his college games knowing what they know now. Myself and plenty others on here pointed out some glaring talent deficiencies and laid out why his playing style was unlikely to translate to the NFL given his skill set. Go back and watch Bryce throwing to wide open receivers. Watch him immediately backpedal 10 yards behind the LOS after every snap to gain depth to see over the scrum and stand square to the line forcing him to reset his feet and flip his hips to actually deliver the ball once he finds what he wants. None of it was going to work at the NFL level.

Now I will say that even as a loud Bryce dissenter from the get go even i am shocked at how bad it's been. I didn't think he was ever going to be a franchise starter but I honestly never anticipated that he would be THIS bad either.

I’m half joking when I say someone from the huddle could step out there and do what he does, but I’m not.  Because what he does is exactly what I expect from someone with little to no experience trying to make things happen.  The way even when he tries to avoid mistakes, he seems to find them.  Watching him try to run away from a defender twice his size and still get hawked down, then him try to do the smart thing and tuck the ball away, only for the said defender to punch the ball out with ease.  Watching him scramble out of the pocket, get squared up by a defender, one on one, and then he tries to juke one way. No, the other way.  No maybe I should’ve went the first way.  Then trip over himself and fall forward while fumbling.  The Jessie Bates game - those picks he threw?  You see most QBs might make a throw like that a couple times a season.  He has done it 2 or 3 times a game, multiple games in his career.  He did it twice against Jacksonville this season.  It all looks like someone who is new to this.  It looks like someone who has no idea what they’re doing and are in way over their head.

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16 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Brother you need rethink your priorities. I would not spend 75% of my time arguing even if I was an attorney. I damn sure am not doing it for free over a player. 

Well most of what's on Twitter is Panthers related for me. So when Shena and others ask questions I answer. And if the answer involves Bryce it's gonna be an argument cause I don't let poo go 😂. I'm not on Twitter all day or nothing tho.

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1 minute ago, Bigdaddy8523 said:

Well most of what's on Twitter is Panthers related for me. So when Shena and others ask questions I answer. And if the answer involves Bryce it's gonna be an argument cause I don't let poo go 😂. I'm not on Twitter all day or nothing tho.

I'm not on Twitter or any other social media so that frees up a lot of time I cannot afford to waste. I waste too much of my time on here as it is now. 

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17 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I wish people would actually go back and watch his college games knowing what they know now. Myself and plenty others on here pointed out some glaring talent deficiencies and laid out why his playing style was unlikely to translate to the NFL given his skill set. Go back and watch Bryce throwing to wide open receivers. Watch him immediately backpedal 10 yards behind the LOS after every snap to gain depth to see over the scrum and stand square to the line forcing him to reset his feet and flip his hips to actually deliver the ball once he finds what he wants. None of it was going to work at the NFL level.

Now I will say that even as a loud Bryce dissenter from the get go even i am shocked at how bad it's been. I didn't think he was ever going to be a franchise starter but I honestly never anticipated that he would be THIS bad either.

how half of the huddle saw this coming but a mother fuging professional organization didnt doesn give me a lot of warm and fuzzies about our team moving forward

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