Mayock on Gabbert

[Jackofalltrades]

i have a long post about that saying in another thread about that cliche.

It is a cliche prosecutors use to convey guilt in the absence of conclusive evidence.

Every day people are acquitted from crimes they didn't commit. The reason they were charged was bc of smoke.

Devon Ramsey at UNC was ruled ineligible by the NCAA bc of smoke. He has since been proven to have not committed a violation and has now been reinstated.

It is a poor, poor cliche. No offense Jack :)

Cliche's earn their status as such because they've generally proven true over the course of time.

[teeray]

Cliche's earn their status as such because they've generally proven true over the course of time.

This one doesn't to defense attorney's :) There is a reason that "without a shadow of a doubt" is the burden of truth in most criminal cases.

[Jackofalltrades]

You a defense attorney?

[mav1234]

As a note about Gabbert, maybe this has already been mentioned but:

That still could happen. Gabbert said he spoke with the Panthers, owners of the first pick, Thursday night and that he's ready for any outcome on draft day with the possibility of a trade potentially factoring into the equation if the Panthers aren't interested.

from http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ahzeq8iR59xtv2Z5.9z7FjBDubYF?slug=pfw-20110225_gabbert_no_personal_battle_with_cam_newton

[Jackofalltrades]

I want Gabbert more than Newton, but I still don't want a QB at all in this draft.

[mav1234]

Considering our pick and the likelihood of trading down, I don't want to draft any quarterback with our first pick, either. I still like Gabbert though and think he has the potential to do very well in the NFL.

[teeray]

You a defense attorney?

No. I come from a big family of attorneys and lawmakers. Mostly prosecutors so I would have been a defense attorney if I decided to go that route because it keeps the conversations lively.

[MHS831]

Come on. Cam admitted to the allegations today during the press conference. Problem is the huggers are screaming he is innocent and a victim of a conspiracy BEFORE the cross examinations.

He might have an alibi for every accusation. The teams don't need evidence. When I am picking a watermelon at Food Lion, I thump it, look for soft spots, and if something doesn't feel right, I pick another one. There is no due process.

I have a feeling that Cam is now going to be scrutinized-background checks, interview techniques (lawyer questioning tricks) that check for consistencies. However, they have not gone back to high school to the best of my knowledge. We are only talking about 5 semesters. Not a huge window of time to do all he has done--or was framed to have done.

[teeray]

Come on. Cam admitted to the allegations today during the press conference. Problem is the huggers are screaming he is innocent and a victim of a conspiracy BEFORE the cross examinations.

He might have an alibi for every accusation. The teams don't need evidence. When I am picking a watermelon at Food Lion, I thump it, look for soft spots, and if something doesn't feel right, I pick another one. There is no due process.

I have a feeling that Cam is now going to be scrutinized-background checks, interview techniques (lawyer questioning tricks) that check for consistencies. However, they have not gone back to high school to the best of my knowledge. We are only talking about 5 semesters. Not a huge window of time to do all he has done--or was framed to have done.

YAY!! That brings me back to my original point. Let the Panthers do their due diligence and investigate this stuff and sort this stuff out.

I just asked that you respect the process and let them figure this stuff out bc you don't know.

What if your thumping your watermelon and 500 people came up and told you that you were thumping it wrong even though you are an expert watermelon thumper?? You would think you knew what you were doing and they should respect that.

I'm just the guy telling those other guys to let you thump your watermelon and make your own decision since it is going to be your watermelon and you are an expert.

Weirdest analogy ever!!!! So thanks for that :D :D

[pantherj]

What are you guys up to in this thread? This has taken a turn for the strange.

[vorbis]

i've only watched one game and part of another one of gabbert this past season, as well as 5 or 6 highlight videos on youtube from the past 2 seasons. i get that the tools are there, and even the skills. the offense at missouri seems really kind of gimmicky to me. tailor-made for success in college, impossible to implement and get away with it in the NFL. but gabbert just wasn't making it happen in a way that i'd expect from a #1 pick. i can only accept "the system is holding him back, the talent elsewhere on offense is holding him back" so much when talking about the #1 pick. and if you're going to pass up a quarterback at #1 and trade back, i can't imagine you're going to trade back for a quarterback.

[pantherj]

Thanks again Andrew Luck.

[teeray]

Thanks again Andrew Luck.

Seriously. He has caused a schism in the fabric of this fan base now that may never be fixed. I'm not sure after some of the things that have been said that we will ever be able to mend our wounds after the draft.