OK, now it's time to discuss a couple of yesterday's problems. Let's talk "Evero."

[TD alt]

3 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Dude, we beat the Falcons 30-0, held the Cowboys to less points than Green Bay did, and held the Dolphins to well enough to go on a 27-3 run, or 27-6 run. 
 

We also went on a run against the Cardinals. 
 

The defense is going to depend on the development of a pass rush from Princely and Nic. Both have the ability 

Was CeeDee Lamb playing? 

Moreover, anyone being honest, knows that our win against the Falcons was arguably as much or more about Penix playing terribly than Evero's scheming. 

If we get to the meat of our schedule and start giving teams that are actually top tier teams "the business" defensively, then I'll concede that Evero just might know what he's doing. 

Let's see them shut the Bills and Packers down. How about the Bucs and Seahawks? Let's repeat the performance against the Falcons. Perhaps then I will be a believer.

 

[ImfromClayton]

28 minutes ago, TD alt said:

In your honest opinion, what would've happened had CeeDee been playing?

Stopping the run is great, but it's not good enough to just stop the run. Moreover, it's not like Jaycee was great yesterday. The DBs' play yesterday wasn't even necessarily good, but sure we'll get better if we get another corner capable of covering top receivers. That's still not an excuse, nor is being unwilling or unable to make adjustments just because you're married to a certain set scheme. 

George Pickens was not, and maybe still is not, considered "elite." He may be on his way, but throwing the word around to make a point is just that. But, If Pickens plays against the Panthers and Evero every week, I'm sure that he will be considered elite sooner than later, especially since the DC didn't seem to have any answers.

Lastly, if CeeDee was playing, despite exceptional run defense, we likely would have taken just another L. 

Don't get saucy just because some people aren't jumping for joy after Pickens had the second best receiving output of his career. There is something called projection.

IMO, if Ceedee plays against us, the game probably goes the other way. Same with Tyreek Hill and the Dolphins. Our team just isn't designed to beat teams with two high level receivers like that. But when you look at the league, how many teams really have two guys of that caliber? 

There's nothing wrong with defensive adjustments, but sometimes I think a lot of fans want Evero to call a different play like a game on madden, and defensive football just isn't like that. That said, I thought we did a much better job this season against the Cowboys of flipping Jaycee and at least making them work for it, opposed to last season when they literally just lined CeeDee up on the other side of the field every single snap. 

For us to just straight up switch to consistent man coverage, or a different zone, or whatever, we likely would consistently need different personnel on the field. Doing it a few times a game is a gamble and can work, but if we consistently run man coverage against the Cowboys, eventually a RB is going to beat a linebacker, or something of that nature with our personnel. Part of the reason Evero likes this scheme is that, while we have our defaults and presets, what we do is very multiple, and you can do a lot of different things pre and post snap. We are a challenging defense to read. But as you said, if guys are getting beat, it doesn't really matter what you call. 

[CPcavedweller]

7 hours ago, TD alt said:

Was CeeDee Lamb playing? 

Moreover, anyone being honest, knows that our win against the Falcons was arguably as much or more about Penix playing terribly than Evero's scheming. 

If we get to the meat of our schedule and start giving teams that are actually top tier teams "the business" defensively, then I'll concede that Evero just might know what he's doing. 

Let's see them shut the Bills and Packers down. How about the Bucs and Seahawks? Let's repeat the performance against the Falcons. Perhaps then I will be a believer.

 

That’s fine. But 30-0 isn’t just an “off game” by the Falcants. That was a beat down through and through. 
 

The Panthers also just held one of the leagues best rushing offenses to what, 40 yards? Stopping the run is how you win playoff games, period. I like what I’ve seen, and Bryce is getting his clutch gene back. 

[RJK]

I don’t know that it would’ve been better but if you’re not going to have horn travel with the #1 and mike Jack is getting brutalized, maybe give Thornton some run we’ve already seen the improvement on D when evero was forced to play princely and scourton

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

That’s fine. But 30-0 isn’t just an “off game” by the Falcants. That was a beat down through and through. 

It was 10-0 multiple drives into the third quarter. 

A beat down through and through is what New England did to us. 

[ProcessBlue2]

Maybe they just put Evero’s headset on a different channel and Wash is calling the plays while Ejiro speaks into oblivion 

[strato]

2 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Maybe they just put Evero’s headset on a different channel and Wash is calling the plays while Ejiro speaks into oblivion 

LOL Good one.
 

 Like with Wings, Paul McCartney’s band where they kept his wife’s vocals in her monitor only maybe Paul’s. Never to the FOH mix.