Not Necessarily Panthers Related but....

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Tossing in another ______ in this piece. Most QBs picked in the first are going to terrible teams(Especially the top ten).

 

QBs picked in the later rounds get their odds of success increased by landing on iggles or chiefs. 

 

Hence why I placed Joe Burrow sooo high on my list. Maybe the best DC in NFL history agrees- https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2025/07/09/steve-spagnuolo-joe-burrow-is-second-best-nfl-quarterback-to-patrick-mahomes-chiefs-bengals/84514443007/

 

 

Wins, putting up numbers while limiting your TOs on a bad team, that's the impossible feat. 

Maybe try to fit Joes early years into this formula, if the formula is sound, Joe should be in the top 5% if not the top. 

I am confused by what you are asking. Also, the preliminary resulta of the model don't bear out that later round picks have a higher success rate.

Remember, I am not ranking QB's.

[L-TownCat]

34 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, that's the general idea of the model. 

Right.  That’s why I’m not gonna go any farther with it.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Right.  That’s why I’m not gonna go any farther with it.

Yeah, grading individual players and "success" level is harder, IMO. 

I could always do an average based on career AV and then create something based on that. That might be interesting. 

[L-TownCat]

35 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, grading individual players and "success" level is harder, IMO. 

I could always do an average based on career AV and then create something based on that. That might be interesting. 

I like the original premise.  Is there a way to weight the stats/accolades based on draft position?  Kind of like S-F tiers?

Example Tom Brady would be S-tier based on his production while being a 6th rounder, but Peyton Manning would end up being A or B tier for production but was drafted top of the 1st.

Does that make sense?

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, L-TownCat said:

I like the original premise.  Is there a way to weight the stats/accolades based on draft position?  Kind of like S-F tiers?

Example Tom Brady would be S-tier based on his production while being a 6th rounder, but Peyton Manning would end up being A or B tier for production but was drafted top of the 1st.

Does that make sense?

I could do an average or a weighted distribution for each round. I would want to use something like Career AV or similar to do that. It's a little more straightforward. 

I am generally wanting to keep it as a "round based" thing because I want to ultimately use it to gauge when/where to draft QB's based on results.

[kungfoodude]

8 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Sounds dumb but I would put "Super Bowl win as starter" as one of the bullets in the 1st round.  And if my guy checks that, I'm good.  It's dumb but its how I feel.

I would be fine with that. 

[Basbear]

On 10/30/2025 at 6:25 PM, kungfoodude said:

I am confused by what you are asking. Also, the preliminary resulta of the model don't bear out that later round picks have a higher success rate.

Remember, I am not ranking QB's.

I was trying to ask you to included Joe Burrow. 

[kungfoodude]

56 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I was trying to ask you to included Joe Burrow. 

Sure. In two years, I will.