Another example of Bryce playing chess that casuals wouldn’t notice or appreciate

[cranky]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

Besides Jones, this is wrong....Carr was a early 2nd rounder. Wentz got traded after eagles gave him 120+ million, same for Goff got a bag and dumped. 

 

Trey Lance was traded to Dallas before his 4th. 

Zack Wilson got traded to bronco after his 3rd yr for used PB&J sandwich

Josh Rosen was traded in his second year.

Sam darnold was trade here after his 3rd year, if you member Panthers also picked up his 5th yr option as part of the trade.

Kenny Pickett traded after his 3rd year

Mac Jones was traded recently

Justin Fields was traded after his 3rd year

 

Its prime decision time in the off-season. Again BY and his crew/agent have some cards to play and there .001% he plays on 4th year here without some sort contract. 

Yep, I looked and you are right. Interesting.

 

[mrcompletely11]

25 minutes ago, cranky said:

Yep, I looked and you are right. Interesting.

 

any other team would move on but we have to factor in the investment and the teppers.  In short I think we are fuged.

At this point simply picking up the 5th isnt going to do it

[strato]

7 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

I sure hope so. Everything seems to be pointing to the table being set for it.

Really, as I've said before, Bryce is in the position to make his statement about what his future will be. 

Yes, but Canales has a say as well. If he keeps minimizing him it will be harder to know.

I am hoping it plays out where people sell out to stop Rico and there is no other choice but to start throwing it around a little.
 

That’s what we need to see, when they dare him to beat them with his arm, can he come through? 

[cranky]

19 minutes ago, strato said:

Yes, but Canales has a say as well. If he keeps minimizing him it will be harder to know.

I am hoping it plays out where people sell out to stop Rico and there is no other choice but to start throwing it around a little.
 

That’s what we need to see, when they dare him to beat them with his arm, can he come through? 

I don't think Canales is minimizing him. I do not want to get into that right now though. 

To go back to signing Bryce long-term, why can't they just so what the Giants did with Jones. They did not pick up his fifth year option. He played his fourth year and did well so they signed him to a contract just before the start of his fifth year. 

Let Bryce play his fourth year for his contract. Of course he could close out this season against the Bucs, Seahawks and Rams looking like he did at the end of last season. That would certainly complicate things lol

[Basbear]

36 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

any other team would move on but we have to factor in the investment and the teppers.  In short I think we are fuged.

At this point simply picking up the 5th isnt going to do it

 

Again I am trying my best not to worry about off-season or 2026 Panthers, just on this ultra wild 2025 mid-season playoff hunt ride. 

Still the reps of BY will meet with Brandt/Dan and other leadership(maybe even tepper). To simplify this without using many words; BY will need a financial commitment from the Panthers in the form of new contract OR he not part of the Panthers 2026 plan thus not on the team.

That choice will either make or break a few NFL careers....

Edited 3 hours ago by Basbear

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, cranky said:

I don't think Canales is minimizing him. I do not want to get into that right now though. 

To go back to signing Bryce long-term, why can't they just so what the Giants did with Jones. They did not pick up his fifth year option. He played his fourth year and did well so they signed him to a contract just before the start of his fifth year. 

Let Bryce play his fourth year for his contract. Of course he could close out this season against the Bucs, Seahawks and Rams looking like he did at the end of last season. That would certainly complicate things lol

and it was a colossal disaster doing that for the giants I believe they are still paying and will be next year for that insane contract

 

and like others have said, we doubt he is simply going to play on a 1 year deal 

 

 

The panthers are backed into a corner due to his shitty play.  Any other team would cut ties and eat the 4rth but they didnt set themselves up with any options.  In a vacuum we are fuged.  

[cranky]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

 

Again I am trying my best not to worry about off-season or 2026 Panthers, just on this ultra wide 2025 mid-season playoff hunt ride. 

Still the reps of BY will meet with Brandt/Dan and other leadership(maybe even tepper). To simplify this without using many words; BY will need a financial commitment from the Panthers in the form of new contract OR he not part of the Panthers 2026 plan thus not on the team.

That choice will either make or break a few NFL careers....

Isn't he locked into his fourth year ( 2026 ) as part of his rookie contract? 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

Again I am trying my best not to worry about off-season or 2026 Panthers, just on this ultra wild 2025 mid-season playoff hunt ride. 

Still the reps of BY will meet with Brandt/Dan and other leadership(maybe even tepper). To simplify this without using many words; BY will need a financial commitment from the Panthers in the form of new contract OR he not part of the Panthers 2026 plan thus not on the team.

That choice will either make or break a few NFL careers....

Seeing how D Jones played for the giants, seeing how Brissett literally just took Murrays job, seeing how tua is eyeballing the bench and all of these came with big contracts after mediocre stats.  No fuging way, and I mean no fuging way should this franchise put that anchor around its neck for bryce young and his 175 yards a game

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, cranky said:

Isn't he locked into his fourth year ( 2026 ) as part of his rookie contract? 

yes but as we pointed out to you and you got completely wrong only 1 qb has played the 4rth year without the option picked up.  99% of the time its either cut, traded or extension.  Thats just how this works

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, cranky said:

Isn't he locked into his fourth year ( 2026 ) as part of his rookie contract? 

Thus he and his agent/crew can "holdout" as a bargaining tactic. That is his last "cheap" rookie deal year. The question will be simple this- either you commit a 200+mill deal for BY or if not????? Welllllll BY is not part of your future plans. If the Panthers are unwilling to do so, BY/agent/crew will demand a trade or release. This is why so many recent first round QBs have been traded at this stage. That was the point of my comments.

Incoming off-season this should/will be answered. 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Thus he and his agent/crew can "holdout" as a bargaining tactic. That is his last "cheap" rookie deal year. The question will be simple this- either you commit a 200+mill deal for BY or if not????? Welllllll BY is not part of your future plans. If the Panthers are unwilling to do so, BY/agent/crew will demand a trade or release. This is why so many recent first round QBs have been traded at this stage. That was the point of my comments.

Incoming off-season this should/will be answered. 

its absolutely bizarre to me that dc or morgan has not been asked about this yet halfway through the season.  And I give newton a ton of props for at least asking about bryces shitty 102 yards and under performance for the year

[Basbear]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Seeing how D Jones played for the giants, seeing how Brissett literally just took Murrays job, seeing how tua is eyeballing the bench and all of these came with big contracts after mediocre stats.  No fuging way, and I mean no fuging way should this franchise put that anchor around its neck for bryce young and his 175 yards a game

 

I don't see how, but I fear others hold BY in a different light. I just know Brandt/Dan/Dave jobs are on the line. 250mill and fails or can not find a better option.... I get 175 yards feel ultra easy too replace, hell I even think a green 2026 rookie could be closer enough to justify it.... Just depends on them and how the future plays out. 

[mrcompletely11]

10 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

I don't see how, but I fear others hold BY in a different light. I just know Brandt/Dan/Dave jobs are on the line. 250mill and fails or can not find a better option.... I get 175 yards feel ultra easy too replace, hell I even think a green 2026 rookie could be closer enough to justify it.... Just depends on them and how the future plays out. 

every show on fnz thinks he is the bees knees, the guys on 99.9 in raleigh have a different view.  So who knows. Fnz guys have always been over the top homers.  Its pretty sickening but funny to listen to